Bolt Click (Again)

Wayne,
While the problem is most likely in the chamber/die, I did want to point out that being a Nesika it is possible that this is in the action. I went through all the same stuff with mine and thought it was a die problem until I found out otherwise. The problem was corrected fairly easily, but I would never have been able to do it with a new die. As I understand it, the issue with the "K" isn't unusual.

Rick

Rick...I will have to monitor to see if my Nesika J is particulary vulnerable to this issue, in which case maybe I'll have the action worked on. But I'm cufused...did you say is an easy fix, or an intensive fix?

With that said, I really think it simply a die-cause problem. In effect, I was almost neck sizing all the while.
 
Rick...I will have to monitor to see if my Nesika J is particulary vulnerable to this issue, in which case maybe I'll have the action worked on. But I'm cufused...did you say is an easy fix, or an intensive fix?

With that said, I really think it simply a die-cause problem. In effect, I was almost neck sizing all the while.

Since it is a "J" action, that problem isn't likely so don't be concerned with it. It only occurred in the "K". If you started out with the wrong die, then you may be able to fix it with a swap. We'll hope so. Good luck and hopes for a simple and inexpensive solution.

Rick
 
It's gonna be a hard road ahead to eliminate the 'click' and stay with the same powder charge/pressure.
 
It's gonna be a hard road ahead to eliminate the 'click' and stay with the same powder charge/pressure.

I'm sure you're right. It likes that stiff load for sure, and eventually I'll get new brass...but as far as I'm concerened...I still have $400 of value in all that brass. Hopefully some aggressive base sizing and maybe a tad of chamber polishings will set me straight.
 
Just remember that when you polish out a chamber the same die becomes more "aggressive" by the amount that the chamber was enlarged at its base. You may not need to change the die.
Another thing, there can be more than one factor involved in the creation of a click, so when fellows write about different solutions to what seem like the same problem, because the symptom can come from more than one situation, they are all right, if their particular fix worked for them, but they all may be wrong to the extent that they are not aware of other related but not identical causes. For example, I have a Vari-Base die, that I can use to cure a click that a standard die might not. With the shoulder bump set to .001 from max. length, I can have a click on old brass, but if I unscrew the base insert just a little so that the die has more reach on the case, that, in combination with a shell holder that has been turned down around .014 gets rid of the click. Another factor is that the bottom of the inserts have much less of a radius than any one piece die that I have seen. Some dies, that are currently available, the Jones for instance, adjust the shoulder bump in the die, rather than by moving the entire die, this allows then body of the die to be set as low as the shell holder will allow for all bump settings. The Warner die may also have this feature. I have not played with one, but I seem to remember that it does. Perhaps someone who has one will speak up on this point. A long time ago, I did an experiment with a case that had a click. It was well used at high pressures. I removed about .002 from its OD. parallel with its CL,starting at the top of the extractor groove. This solved the problem. On my next trip to the range, I repeatedly fired the case with hot loads but within that number of firings, the click did not reappear. Knowing what I do now, after playing with the die's base insert, my problem was that the die did not reach as far down the case as the chamber did. The difference probably being very small.
 
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