barrels

on average hw many barrels do you go through to get a great barrel to use in the bigger shoots?i have heard that some barrels are good and some are great as far as being able to shoot in the 1s and zrows as far as groups go.Tony Boyer stated in a article that 1 out of a hundred i belive was able to shoot through condistions.these were called hummer barrels.
 
The Stainless Steel now a days is not the same as when Tony said that. 2009 to 2015 were the worst years. It's mostly junk.
The foundry was making a certain type of stainless for GM. They stopped making it in 2009. Now it's junk.
 
no...a friend has a barrel in 6mm bra.it realy shoots quite well.he has gotten a few barrel since then that will no hold a candle to it as far as groups go or consistancy .they just will not shoot worth a dam.groups are in the 2s and 3s at 100 yards.his great berrel is in the 1s and 0s.this is why i asked that question.i was just wandering if others were having trouble getting great barrels .
 
My opinion is it's more of a case of hummer shooters than hummer barrels because the shooter ultimately has the last say. You pull that trigger at the wrong time,that barrel ain't gonna makeup for shooter error......Tony Boyer or not. That rifle only does what you tell it to do.
 
Oliver88 Thank you for sharing that information. In your test with the three bar stock blanks ring test, do the the three blanks all ring the same prior to stress relief? Do all three of the test blanks weigh exactly the same after cutting to length?
 
We really appreciate you sharing your efforts. Many of us have tried and failed to find the answer, spent much money and many hours and sometimes we think we have it figured out but then find we were wrong again. LOL
 
My opinion is it's more of a case of hummer shooters than hummer barrels because the shooter ultimately has the last say. You pull that trigger at the wrong time,that barrel ain't gonna makeup for shooter error......Tony Boyer or not. That rifle only does what you tell it to do.
there are guys out there that know how to shoot and know when they get a hummer, set it aside and save it for big matches....me i aint good enough to know one in short range.
in long range i just replaced the bbl i won heavy score nationals with in 2021, and was having no luck with it. found one small error and have now shot 3 low 1's in the last couple of days, so i do not see a change in bbl quality.
 
This is where I believe that a tuner can help out. Once the best load is found, the tuner can be adjusted to get the barrel in the best harmonic frequency, and possibly make an average barrel have better characteristics.
 
This is where I believe that a tuner can help out. Once the best load is found, the tuner can be adjusted to get the barrel in the best harmonic frequency, and possibly make an average barrel have better characteristics.
The 2 main causes of errant shots are No. 1....shooter error and No.2....downrange condition changes the shooter was not aware of or didn't compensate for. No amount of tuning or tuner will make up for either one. The rifle only does what the shooter tells it to do.
 
The 2 main causes of errant shots are No. 1....shooter error and No.2....downrange condition changes the shooter was not aware of or didn't compensate for. No amount of tuning or tuner will make up for either one. The rifle only does what the shooter tells it to do.
you are mixing apples and oranges.
how well the rifle shoots , a tuner can fine tune for given conditions( not wind)
how well the shooter shoots..conditions
 
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The 2 main causes of errant shots are No. 1....shooter error and No.2....downrange condition changes the shooter was not aware of or didn't compensate for. No amount of tuning or tuner will make up for either one. The rifle only does what the shooter tells it to do.
Harmonics of the barrel have nothing to do with the shooters ability.
 
I don't know what the odds are that a barrel in tune can be thought of as a Hummer, but I can tell you that a rifle out of tune won't shoot worth a flip no matter who is shooting it.
 
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