I just spoke with Lou Murdica. He took third in the 2 gun. I forgot to ask who took second. Perhaps someone will give us more complete information. The reason that I mentioned Lou is that I know he is shooting a tuner. I asked him if Gene was shooting his, and he said that he was. My point being that while they are no substitute for shooter skill, or any of the other myriad of requirements for winning accuracy, it would seem that tuners are here to stay.