7mm mags

James,

I will admit that I have no experience with the 7mm SAUM. It may be the ticket for 7mm. I would be curious as to what powder and bullet combination you are using. And how many barrel have you had chambered for that cartridge?

The spec of the reamer are minimum sammi specs, .308 neck, and I believe what my gunsmith calls a live pilot. Made by Mr. Kiff.

Danny
Danny,
I am shooting 162 A-Max bullets and 66.8gr H1000 w/ BR 2 primers at 3127fps, the barrel is Bartlien 5r 9 twist. I have one other barrel chambered in with the same reamer, it's a Lawton 6 groove 9 twist. I think I have around 200 rounds on the second barrel, although it is also a LG (15 1/4 lbs)I shot it in the HG class at the Nationals. It gets 162 A-Max and 58.4 gr of H4831sc w/ 250 primers at 3015fps. The reamer is made specifically for necked down Nosler 300 saum brass and has a slightly shorter neck than a factory 7mm saum(2.015, I trim to 2.000). It is a no turn neck, .318 chamber and .316 loaded round dia.
My reamer is a floating pilot and also ground by PTG.
Before the Nationals I inspected the throat with a cheap bore scope that I had trouble focusing but the throat looked too good for the round count, I need to look at with a Hawkeye.


James
 
Chris Matthews has 600+ rounds on a 7 wizzum light gun. He just shot at MO State Championships and posted 2, 3" groups.
 
I tried to use the slowest powders like H1000 and Retumbo in the 7mm WSM so that I wouldn't burn the second barrel out.

The first barrel had about 600 rounds through it when I went to a 600 yard match in Bridgeville, in Dec 2005. I ask the shooter next to me to watch where my first shot went, as I was coming up from a 200 yard zero. The shot went through the target at 3 o'clock in the 9 ring, but I watched the vapor trail as it went to the target and ask the guy next to me if he saw how fast it got to the target. He said yes and agreed with me that it was definately faster than 2950 fps. I chronographed it the following weekend and recorded almost 3200 fps. Then went to Clay Spencer's the next weekend to bore scope the barrel as I couls not find the lands with seating the bullet. The throat was burnt out over eight inches.
I assumed that it was just a soft barrel and told Clay to put one of his barrels on it.
I got the gun back two months later, worked up a load and shot it with some success throughout the Spring of 2006. When getting ready for the World Open in Pa., I checked my seating depth and had one thread left in the seating die to seat the bullet kissing the lands. The barrel had just over 450 rounds. It shot competitively, but I could not bring myself to shoot a caliber that would have to be set back every 400 rounds.
I took the gun back to Clay and when he asked what was wrong, I told him that it needed a larger hole down the center.
I spoke with others at the Pa. club who shot the same and they said they would set theirs back as they liked the way it shot. More power to them. I don't spend my money that freely and I don't have my own lathe.

In conclusion about the 7mm WSM, I believe that it is overbore. To get the bullet speed up to 2900 fps with a 9 twist, I don't believe there is a powder that will not burn the barrel out.
Maybe the 7mm SAUM case will do that, but I am going to let others play that game and stick to the 7mm Rem Mag.

On another note, the gun now has a 300 WSM barrel on it & seems to be doing quite well as the stats will show from the IBS nat'ls this year:D
It surprised me more than anyone.

Ric,

I would like to know, what powder and bullet combination Chris is shooting in his 7 WSM. And what the bore looks like in a couple hunderd more rounds, just for the sake of knowledge.

Danny
 
Danny,

I think he shoots H1000 and either Bergers or Cartarucio (sp ) I never get that name right...
if'in ya go to his website his e-mail addy is there.
 
I would still like to know what the bore looks like after another 200 rounds. If it is in fair shape, I might build one to try as an experiment. The only draw back is the quality of the brass, as I have never found a lot of Remington brass that was all that great.

Danny
 
I would still like to know what the bore looks like after another 200 rounds. If it is in fair shape, I might build one to try as an experiment. The only draw back is the quality of the brass, as I have never found a lot of Remington brass that was all that great.

Danny

If I had to use Remington brass for my 7 SAUM I would probably find another case.
The 300 SAUM Nosler brass is however every bit as good as, if not better than my 6BR Lapua brass and superior to 300 SAUM Norma brass.

James
 
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