6 PPC Barrel Wear
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Tony C
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If I were buying a used PPC, I would count on having to have a new barrel chambered. With 800 rounds, it's not going to be long...
If it were a 30BR - that could be another story.
Tony
If it were a 30BR - that could be another story.
Tony
Boyd Allen
Active member
You might consider buying your own reamer before you have your first barel chambered. That way, your dies will fit each new barrel's chamber.
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Mike Swartz
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Not to be a doom sayer but if you are going to buy a rifle that has rounds through it(800) buy it as if the barrel didn't exist. For some reason sellers have a hard time counting and (800) may be (1500). The barrel is not a waste however. If you do buy a reamer, as suggested, the original barrel can be used as a fire form barrel. If you have never shot centerfire benchrest at a competitive level I'd buy a really good set of windflags and (2) barrels. You will put a lot of rounds down one of the barrels while figuring out what the flags are telling you.
Good luck;
Mike Swartz
Good luck;
Mike Swartz
6 PPC Barrell Wear
If I were to but 2 new barrels, chamber reamer, Wilson Micro dies, barrels reamed and installed, dies reamed. What would I be looking at price wise? I have Hart w/Fudd top, bags, adjustable rear rest, flags. Also is there a limitation on scope power? Thanks, Guys. Ron
If I were to but 2 new barrels, chamber reamer, Wilson Micro dies, barrels reamed and installed, dies reamed. What would I be looking at price wise? I have Hart w/Fudd top, bags, adjustable rear rest, flags. Also is there a limitation on scope power? Thanks, Guys. Ron
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yat3b35
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In your opinion what is the round count before accuracy falls off ? My 6ppc has 1200 rounds down the tube and still shoots very well , however it does spit a round out of the group quite often and I figured it was powder weight differences by a .1 or so or maybe a difference in case weight. Or just me.
Sid Goodling is building me a 30 br and I hope to have it before April 6th.
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Mike Swartz
Guest
Ron;
Depending on who does the work here's about what you are going to spend;
Barrels-Ready to thread on rifle-$450.00ea.(+/-)includes blank-
Reamer-$175.00-$200.00
Dies-Wilson seater reamed with your chamber reamer-$75.00-$90.00
Size die-I'd buy a Harrell's die made to fit your fired brass-
$75.00 to your door-BRC advertiser-
Rear rest- If you intend to shoot registered matches this won't fly. It will need to be a sand filled bag with no adjustments except squeezing it. Also if the front is one of the Fudd rimfire fronts with the very hard bags they might need replaced- Read the NBRSA/IBS rules re:bags-click on the association logo's on the home page- There is a lot of education in the rules-The adjustable rear rest could be shot as an Unlimited/Heavy Bench rifle-
Scopes- Any power you like- there are no magnification limits unless you decide to shoot the 6X HBR or Varmint Hunter score classes-
Depending on the rifle you buy, and assuming you intend to shoot registered matches, the weight of the scope might enter into things. If it is a light varmint rifle it can not exceed 10 1/2# ready to set in the bags- A heavy varmint rifle cannot exceed 13 1/2#- depending on how the rifle is built scope weight may enter into things-
Mike Swartz
Depending on who does the work here's about what you are going to spend;
Barrels-Ready to thread on rifle-$450.00ea.(+/-)includes blank-
Reamer-$175.00-$200.00
Dies-Wilson seater reamed with your chamber reamer-$75.00-$90.00
Size die-I'd buy a Harrell's die made to fit your fired brass-
$75.00 to your door-BRC advertiser-
Rear rest- If you intend to shoot registered matches this won't fly. It will need to be a sand filled bag with no adjustments except squeezing it. Also if the front is one of the Fudd rimfire fronts with the very hard bags they might need replaced- Read the NBRSA/IBS rules re:bags-click on the association logo's on the home page- There is a lot of education in the rules-The adjustable rear rest could be shot as an Unlimited/Heavy Bench rifle-
Scopes- Any power you like- there are no magnification limits unless you decide to shoot the 6X HBR or Varmint Hunter score classes-
Depending on the rifle you buy, and assuming you intend to shoot registered matches, the weight of the scope might enter into things. If it is a light varmint rifle it can not exceed 10 1/2# ready to set in the bags- A heavy varmint rifle cannot exceed 13 1/2#- depending on how the rifle is built scope weight may enter into things-
Mike Swartz
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Dick Grosbier
Club Coordinator
Forget the barrel, buy the rifle assuming it has to be replaced . If it turns out to have some life left in it so much the better, but as stated earlier assume its shot out is the best way to buy a used rifle.
jackie schmidt
New member
Ron
Very few Benchrest Shooters will sell a good barrel. Maybe if they are on their death bed and felt like it would help in atonement.
Like the other shooters have said, just consider the barrel an expendable item.
In Group Benchrest, and in IBS Varmint For Score, there is no limitation on scopes.......JACKIE
Very few Benchrest Shooters will sell a good barrel. Maybe if they are on their death bed and felt like it would help in atonement.
Like the other shooters have said, just consider the barrel an expendable item.
In Group Benchrest, and in IBS Varmint For Score, there is no limitation on scopes.......JACKIE
Barrel life.
The competition has gotten so tough that the shooters seem to use a barrel for only two or three matches. Some of the great shooters stretch this somewhat. Allie Euber told me that he tries to get 3000 rounds from his barrels. The late Jef Fowler said that he won three consecutive 3-gun titles at the Nationals with the same McMillan barrel. He retired it with approximately 12,000 rounds. I believe that Clay Spencer got it and split it to see what it looked like. Jef said it was completely "burned up" in the throat and showed no lands for 2 inches. How that barrel kept shooting is anyone's guess. I guess that one has to shoot a barrel until the accuracy falls off. I believe a person is lucky to get 1500 competitive rounds from a barrel in todays matches. Good shooting, James Mock
The competition has gotten so tough that the shooters seem to use a barrel for only two or three matches. Some of the great shooters stretch this somewhat. Allie Euber told me that he tries to get 3000 rounds from his barrels. The late Jef Fowler said that he won three consecutive 3-gun titles at the Nationals with the same McMillan barrel. He retired it with approximately 12,000 rounds. I believe that Clay Spencer got it and split it to see what it looked like. Jef said it was completely "burned up" in the throat and showed no lands for 2 inches. How that barrel kept shooting is anyone's guess. I guess that one has to shoot a barrel until the accuracy falls off. I believe a person is lucky to get 1500 competitive rounds from a barrel in todays matches. Good shooting, James Mock
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nickthe
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Mock
does anyone know what was Jef's cleaning regiment was? that would be interesting to know
"The late Jef Fowler said that he won three consecutive 3-gun titles at the Nationals with the same McMillan barrel. He retired it with approximately 12,000 rounds."
does anyone know what was Jef's cleaning regiment was? that would be interesting to know
"The late Jef Fowler said that he won three consecutive 3-gun titles at the Nationals with the same McMillan barrel. He retired it with approximately 12,000 rounds."
Dick Grosbier
Club Coordinator
Not really, some barrels really last and most don't. Now if all of a person's barrels lasted twice as long as everybody else's you would definitely want to adopt his technique.