.338 Whisper?

... deliberately building single plane flexibility into a stock ...

Greg

I'm building one this winter that could be described as two 1x3 boards that overlap under the action. One board is the forend and the other (with a toe added) is the butt stock. Both are horizontal so that they have lots of lateral stiffness, but less vertical stiffness than the average BR stock. This is total shot-in-the-dark, so it may fail miserably. I can adjust the stiffness on either end by routing kerfs across the 3" width of the boards. This prototype will be pretty simple. If it works, I can try a more elaborate adjustment system. I may call it the "porpoise" for the motion I expect it to have.:D

Cheers,
Keith
 
Keith,

I was hoping you were going to do some experimentation. Glad to hear you've got a plan. Hope you'll keep us informed of your progress. If you want to knock it around with me I'd be delighted. Check your PM's

Good luck,

Greg
 
Kieth, what ever happened to the old engineer's trick of "going to far" so you'd be sure to get a difference? Why not sandwich some hard rubber in between?

P.S. How are you planning to attach the two boards? Glue, right? Too stiff.
 
Kieth, what ever happened to the old engineer's trick of "going to far" so you'd be sure to get a difference? Why not sandwich some hard rubber in between?

P.S. How are you planning to attach the two boards? Glue, right? Too stiff.

The rubber is a bit like Vaughn's connection between receiver and stock with flexible sheets of metal, but elastic in all directions. The elasticity in the lateral direction could be problematic. My approach is to firmly attach the receiver to the center of the stock and have both ends be flexible only in the vertical direction. Same with the connection between the two boards. I want to limit deflections to only vertical. I will probably bolt or screw the boards together so that it is easy to change parts.

Cheers,
Keith
 
Can I squeeze in here long enough to ask you to send me some pics of that Charles? I do like to see fancy gear! Thanks.


My thinking is that the center-of-mass = center-of-bore rifle is not what matters. My big tube guns, if you remember, have a piece of 0.75 inch thick, 13-inch long piece of aluminum functioning as a butt. Don't remember what it weighs; at the back, it is 5 inches deep, then to the bottom of that is bolted the 3-inch wide plate plate with steel guide rails to fit the rear rest (a short-range front sandbag). The weight is not insignificant.

This handles the torque, letting me use "only" a seven-inch wide front plate. Both Joel and CB had to go to a dual-post front rest.

My first tensioned-barrel rifle use a small 2-inch tube, and the stock was one of those 20-pound McMillan 50-caliber stocks, all below the bore line. Both Jeff Rogers and Tony Z's (Australia) rifles are the same (homemade stock), as was Dave Tooley's *compression* fitted barrel -- that was a Light Gun, as I remember.

So now we have compression and tension; to complete the picture remember Phil Jusilus' HG, which used a big tube, but neither tension nor compression, he simply used a spider-type bolt system to hold the muzzle in place.

All of these shoot the characteristic round groups. The load can be tuned, but the shape of the group stays the same. It just gets a bit bigger or smaller

That's why I think the double-cantilevered beam is the correct model.

You could argue that Joel's rifle shot better, and that was certainly true of the first barrel. But his second barrel wasn't so good, my tube gun stayed right with it. And Jeff Rogers "not-COM" guns hold a lot of Australian records.

Ideally, both the butt & muzzle would be cemented into a brick wall. But getting that to the line would be hard, never mind bench rotation...
 
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