2017 NBRSA Southeast Region Schedule

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Steve Lee

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Here is the currently planned schedule for NBRSA Southeast Region. There is a possibility we may add one or two additional shoots but nothing certain yet.

Steve

2017 NBRSA Southeast Region Schedule
March 11-12 River Bend - Gene Mowell Memorial LV/HV
March 25-26 MGGOA - Shamrock LV/HV
April 8-9 Roanoke - Virginia State Championship LV/HV
October 12-15 River Bend - Brady Knight Memorial/NBRSA Southeast Regional 4 Gun
Roanoke Oct 28-29 Ted Manning Challenge LV/HV
 
What would be involved in getting more shoots in the SER? What can we do to help?
 
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Hunter said:
What would be involved in getting more shoots in the SER? What can we do to help?
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What we lack is the people to run the shoots. We have the ranges. The Bristol club, Kettlefoot, not too long ago spent over $85,000 to update that range to get back on the SE circuit. The guy who would have ran that shoot, Claude Smith, passed away this last Spring.

Too, the first NBRSA shoot I ever shot in, Unaka, we had 63 shooters. The last 2016 shoot there we had 13. The guy who ran the Unaka shoots, Norman Jones, passed away recently.

Traveling to that shoot, in my mind, I counted 12 ranges that no longer hold NBRSA or IBS centerfire/group shoots, just in the SE region.

Centerfire/group, takes a tremendous amount of equipment setup and manpower. Seems that commodity is not too much available now. Everyone wants to show up, shoot, then go home.

Centerfire/group, shoots have been 2-day affairs and usually 3-4 day total commitment just for the shooters.

Hopefully our new SE Director, Steve Lee, has some ideas (with the help of The Donald?).


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JerrySharrett said:
What we lack is the people to run the shoots. We have the ranges.
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Jerry, let's test that theory -- I'll volunteer to help run any SER-registered shoot(s) next year that is/are not currently on the schedule and that is/are within 300 miles of Atlanta; I'll also try to recruit another person to help. All that's required of someone who wants to take my offer is that they contact me at least six weeks prior to the shoot(s).

BTW, the "2016" Unaka shoot you mentioned above was in 2015 I believe, and it was a four-gun, 200-yard event; as you know, a lot of guys don't shoot the unlimited event. The immediately previous shoot at Unaka had only 17 shooters (none of whom were River Bend club-shooter "regulars"); however, it was held the same weekend as River Bend's regularly-scheduled club match. That club match had five shooters who have shot at the Shamrock recently, and several others who have shot registered matches at River Bend. The point of those last two sentences is that registered matches that conflict with close-by club matches are at a disadvantage.
 
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Hunter said:
Jerry, let's test that theory -- I'll volunteer to help run any SER-registered shoot(s) next year that is/are not currently on the schedule and that is/are within 300 miles of Atlanta; I'll also try to recruit another person to help. All that's required of someone who wants to take my offer is that they contact me at least six weeks prior to the shoot(s).

BTW, the "2016" Unaka shoot you mentioned above was in 2015 I believe, and it was a four-gun, 200-yard event; as you know, a lot of guys don't shoot the unlimited event. The immediately previous shoot at Unaka had only 17 shooters (none of whom were River Bend club-shooter "regulars"); however, it was held the same weekend as River Bend's regularly-scheduled club match. That club match had five shooters who have shot at the Shamrock recently, and several others who have shot registered matches at River Bend. The point of those last two sentences is that registered matches that conflict with close-by club matches are at a disadvantage.
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Bill, great idea. Take it up with Steve Lee.

The last NBRSA shoot at Unaka was July 14-25 2015. I now, I was one of the 13.

As to local shoot/registered shoot conflicts in a Region, the local shoots have to either reschedule or suffer. "Full time" Benchrest shooters will shoot the registered shoots. On the national level, those schedules are made way in advance, adjusted between the NBRSA and the IBS, so shooters can make advance plans for vacation, motels, etc. On an annual basis a shooter like myself sometimes will travel 4,000-6,000 miles in that season. Some shooters from the SE Region who shot the 2016 NBRSA Nationals traveled over 4,000 miles just for that event.

Work on ideas, help get more ranges.

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Hunter said:
Jerry, let's test that theory -- I'll volunteer to help run any SER-registered shoot(s) next year that is/are not currently on the schedule and that is/are within 300 miles of Atlanta; I'll also try to recruit another person to help. All that's required of someone who wants to take my offer is that they contact me at least six weeks prior to the shoot(s).

BTW, the "2016" Unaka shoot you mentioned above was in 2015 I believe, and it was a four-gun, 200-yard event; as you know, a lot of guys don't shoot the unlimited event. The immediately previous shoot at Unaka had only 17 shooters (none of whom were River Bend club-shooter "regulars"); however, it was held the same weekend as River Bend's regularly-scheduled club match. That club match had five shooters who have shot at the Shamrock recently, and several others who have shot registered matches at River Bend. The point of those last two sentences is that registered matches that conflict with close-by club matches are at a disadvantage.
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Getting help is a problem at a lot of ranges but the hardest thing is someone to take the responsibility of running the match. They have to put in a tremendous amount of time and work in the weeks leading up to the match making sure that everything gets done. I commend you for offering to help and more people need to offer their help with matches but I think the biggest hinderence to getting clubs to hold matches is that someone who will be responsible for making sure that everything gets done. That person is taking on a big job!
 
Hunter said he would help...and he's a pretty good helper! I'll make the same offer as Hunter but I can't walk very far. I can score, call the match. hang targets, make coffee...anything but walk over 50 yards in a single dose.
 
Wilbur said:
I'll make the same offer as Hunter but I can't walk very far. I can score, call the match. hang targets, make coffee...anything but walk over 50 yards in a single dose.
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Wilbur, you score and I'll run targets -- surely we can find someone to call the match. What else is necessary? Oh, the moving backer gizmo -- maybe Jerry will arrange for that (and some of the shooters will probably be willing to help with the set-up). Oh yes, we'll need targets also, but I suspect those can be ordered easy enough -- I can do that. Do we need to feed the shooters? I suspect that's not an absolute requirement -- there will probably be an eatery nearby. Do we need to order trophies? Maybe we could keep expenses low and just award one trophy -- for the two-gun winner (who wants "loser" trophies anyway -- maybe we could give a certificate to the other "winners"); that shouldn't be too hard to do.

I believe between the three of us we can put on a match -- we just need a range to accommodate us.
 
Hunter said:
Wilbur, you score and I'll run targets -- surely we can find someone to call the match. What else is necessary? Oh, the moving backer gizmo -- maybe Jerry will arrange for that (and some of the shooters will probably be willing to help with the set-up).

I believe between the three of us we can put on a match -- we just need a range to accommodate us.
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And to which Tonto says "what do you mean we". Leave me out of this brainstorm. I'm busy now!


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Ranges opting out

At one time the Fayette sportsman club (Fayette, Al) hosted NBRSA group matches- Very good facility, plenty of camping, 20 covered concrete benches, large range house for reloading etc. It was much better than the old Fayette range which also hosted matches. (Wilbur has shot there). Just to list a few of the negatives and why they and other clubs no longer host matches
1. People like Ed W. , Don G and others made too many demands. and many griped about the scoring and everything else
2. Everyone (including me) insisted on pounding their rest into the concrete benches.
3. Prep was a lot of work, numbering the targets, repair and setting up the target frames and moving backers etc. They depended on volunteers otherwise the club would be in the red.
4. No one wanted to volunteer for the target crew. Rachel Glen had the best and only had 2 on the crew. but it would normally take at least 3 to change the targets, check and replace moving and stationary backers and get back up range in time for the next relay (our range officer, also a volunteer, did not entertain us with "in the pines" and Brady was shooting.
5. The range was closed to members for 5 days and many members did not like benchrest.
6. A bunch of new members bought most the stock and voted us out because like the extra work for what little the range made. They also said they did not like the attitude of some of the shooters. Don't ask me why.
7. Mickey closed his range because he said "it just aint worth it"
I sure do miss it but am unable to travel much father now.
I am no longer a member but feel that Fayette would host a match that does not require so much work
I sure wish you luck but there is a lot of work to put on a group match
 
JerrySharrett said, "We have the ranges" -- well, I guess someone needs to volunteer to be the "lead dog" in contacting clubs to secure approval for a match and in securing the needed helpers. When that person steps up, as noted above, Wilbur and I (and probably others) are willing to help with the various details of running a match. So, who's willing to be the "lead dog"? (I might give that role some serious thought if someone would volunteer to be sure the moving backer system is in place. Any takers on being in charge of the MB system?)

Can y'all post the name(s) of some ranges that might be worth contacting?

Let's step up and get more shoots in the SER.
 
Let's give Steve Lee a little bit of time to make this happen. I'm thinking he's making some phone calls and reads here sometimes....so he might pick up on the fact that he's got a couple of helpers. It seems that the NBRSA is sort of tight lipped around these parts. Believe me when I say that me and Hunter ain't gonna make anything happen with just the two of us offering to help....but we're offering anyway and it's a solid offer best I can tell.
 
Well, 2017 is over for BR purposes and no additional matches came on line since this tread started.

The offer referenced in post 4 above has been up for over a year; however, no one has inquired about accepting it.

I don't think the offer referenced in post 7 above has been accepted either.

Also, no response has been received to the last question in post 11 above.

I'm not sure what it takes to get more matches scheduled in the SER; maybe I'll find out one day.

BTW, is there any interest in registered score matches in the SER.

RE: Registered score matches in the SER, I meant NBRSA-registered. IBS and UBR seem to be doing fine-- why not NBRSA score?
 
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SER Schedule has been updated and can be found at http://www.nbrsa.org/2018-southeast-region-matches

Sometimes it takes a while to firm up the schedule. Until I have confirmation from the match director I will list a shoot's date as TBD. I couldn't nail down the Roanoke schedule for their second shoot until today because Gil Gross had to sort it out with his board of directors and has been having some health issues (i.e. was in the hospital a couple of weeks ago).

We now have two ranges whose board of directors will not allow 4 day shoots, so the days of the 4 day 4 gun regional are gone. At present we are planning to hold 2 separate 4 gun regional shoots, one at 100 (Roanoke) and another at 200...date and venue for the 200 yard stage is TBD...hoping to schedule it as second MGGOA-Dublin shoot. FYI I have offered to handle scoring at the second Dublin shoot if we can get it scheduled and they can't find anyone else to do it (i.e. I wouldn't be shooting).

I would love to have more shoots. Anyone who can help make that happen will have my full support, but please read my reply to this thread first.
http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?98323-To-the-Members-of-the-NBRSA-Southeast-Region
 
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I found it interesting in that one of the comments made when seeking help is keep me out of it I am busy as if no one else has anything to do and yet they wonder why the matches are declining. I ran matches at our club for seven years and it's because of those with that same attitude is why I gave it up like I had nothing better to do or more money to make while working seven days a week outside of match days.

JLouis
 
Wrong thread

Hey guys...for some reason we are talking about 2018 SE Region schedule on a thread started for the 2017 season. I'm going to start a new thread for 2018 season...thought I already had.

Steve
 
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