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lsvillarreal
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i am new, and i cant to know wich caliber is "best" for 1000 yard competition. And with wich caliber has more records.
tks
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marion packett
Guest
Look into the 26 caliber. Many of the target bullets have bc of .593 to .640. Modest recoil!
Karl Hunstiger
Club Coordinator
If we knew we would all shoot it!!!!
karl
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Rob Ashcraft.
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What makes it fun
Nice thing about Long Range, everyone seems to do well with something different. 6.5s and 30s seem to be the most common choices.
Rob
Nice thing about Long Range, everyone seems to do well with something different. 6.5s and 30s seem to be the most common choices.
Rob
Dave Tooley
Active member
You need a variety of match bullets in a caliber that have a BC of .500 and higher. A case that will push them 2850-3150 FPS. After that it's what ever makes you feel good.
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Ric
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This was my first year at 1K BR. I choose the 6.5/284 as it can be competitive and capable of doing well anytime.
You really can't expect to have the best caliber out of the gate and win or be competitive. There is no such beast. Very few have accomplished this from the jump, if any.
You need to get some time under your belt and then start to find the characteristics and needs that suit you. After the first couple of matches I was convinced I needed a .30 for next year then as I began to "learn" and start to shoot matches where I became competitive with the other shooters, I realized all I needed was to "learn to shoot well." You'll find that there are relays where you can pick your shots and relays when you can't seem to shoot fast enough.
I've now see that if I do my part I can "drive" any caliber reasonably well.
Last year. I would have said all the above was hogwash and I can be competitive right away and I know there has to be "the caliber" to use.
You really can't expect to have the best caliber out of the gate and win or be competitive. There is no such beast. Very few have accomplished this from the jump, if any.
You need to get some time under your belt and then start to find the characteristics and needs that suit you. After the first couple of matches I was convinced I needed a .30 for next year then as I began to "learn" and start to shoot matches where I became competitive with the other shooters, I realized all I needed was to "learn to shoot well." You'll find that there are relays where you can pick your shots and relays when you can't seem to shoot fast enough.
I've now see that if I do my part I can "drive" any caliber reasonably well.
Last year. I would have said all the above was hogwash and I can be competitive right away and I know there has to be "the caliber" to use.
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Ric
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I'm all ears...
First year, first comp gun, first everything. Pure rookie. Won 17 of 24 relays ( plus 3 at the IBS nats...no shootoffs there) and won 13 of 17 shootoffs. 2nd in IBS SOY points to date. I was told rookies are very lucky. I just prooved them right.
NEVER, EVER TELL ANYONE THEY CAN'T WIN!!!
Yeah. Can I get some of that lot of bullets?
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Ric
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You know and I know that for a guy's first time there is a lot to learn and put together. Your accomplishments would have put the vegas guys outta business.
Answer me this, did you compete in any other shooting discipline prior to this?
So what caliber?
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Baron Graham
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Cartridge!
Ric,
Tod shoots a .300 Weatherby.
Ric,
Tod shoots a .300 Weatherby.
Sorry everyone. I didn't mean that post to sound like it did. It
came off like I was bragging......I'm most certainly not!!!! I know that there's a hell of a lot of shooters here that know a heap more than me(some of my other posts should be proof of that
) It's just that if I was told that I couldn't win....I wouldn't have even tried. I have close to 1000 miles just to attend a match. Sure, if I had a range close by I would have shot. Now, that being said....had I never won a relay....... the worst thing that can be said is that I met a lot of good people and made a bunch of good friends!!!I sort of had a mentor early in this process via e-mail....Donovan Moran.....BIG HELP. He gave me the "doos and don"'ts Explained the process to me. I wanted to bring my gun to the first match with the Nightforce scope on it. I would not have made weight in the LG class. I didn't care, I "just wanted to see" what it(I) could do at a 1K match. Donovan talked me into making my gun legal (putting a lighter scope on it). "SOMETIMES ROOKIES GET LUCKY...IT HAPPENS A LOT" Again... I prooved the theory correct, and won 3 of 4 relays and 2 of the shootoffs. It helped that I am an accuracy NUT....always tinkering and experamenting with new loads. I spent a bunch of time at the loading bench and at the range. I feel that I "earned" it, though some times it seemed as though you guys just felt bad and sorry for that odd little fellow from ND and let me win.
Maybe I am just TO compeditive. NAAAAA.....My guess everyone here is just like me. If you weren't, you would be one of those guys who thinks we are all INSANE
. Looking at what I spent this year on componants, rests, gas, hotel rooms, ect...those guys may be right!!!
Oh ya, your question....no I have never competed in any shooting sport.
Thanks, and sorry,
Tod Soeby
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Ric
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Keep in mind I didn't say ever. I never expected to wind relays nor shoot small group for match my first year but I did. If you had never competed in any shooting discipline prior to this your accomplishments are not the norm.
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Ric
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I think that there are a whole slug of guys out there just like me....accuracy nut, shoots alot, ect.... Just not near a range, or just think that they aren't good enough...what ever. They are out there......we need them.....as many as we can get...to take up 1k, 600, F class....something. If we need to "stroke" new shooters a little to get them involved...tell them they CAN win, then lets do it. THET JUST MIGHT!!! That's what I love about this website....BIG help for the newbie. That is what I love about this sport...the new guy can compete against the best.....and most of the "pros" are more than willing to help with advice, equipment, spotting sighters,....what ever. And they can and do win!!!
As far as wind reading skills, I have my own 1200 yard range and shoot there quite a lot. Somtimes I wait for zero wind (load development), but other times I shoot big wind. I figure, though new to 1K, I can read the wind ok, and have been doing it for years with my deer clubs. As far as a cheater caliber...I would much rather have a 70 lb, 8 inch wide, "CHEATER GUN" on mechanical front and rear rests in 6 dasher than the kicken, fire-breathing, sholder killing, brakeless, 17 LB 300 that I have now. Having to actually steer the gun ( no knob turning....squeez the bag only to get on after EACH AND EVERY shot, both verticle and L-R), can't be good for wind shooting!! The bag manners SUCK. I don't feel out gunned at all in LG, but in heavy.........way out gunned. But...it's all that I can afford. I sure would like to see the rules changed to let the guns that qualify for LT gun use brakes in HG class. The big guns don't need them (IMO). I hope to get my (EXPLODING) dasher shooting strait soon!!! I can get that up to 35 LBS and 6" wide if needed. And the no recoil thing is way cool!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, but I think proper tune, speed, and bag/bench manners are more important than wind reading.
So to the question "what caliber"...If you are shooting one gun, get something manegable, recoil wise. Some can handle lots, some.... not so much. If you are shooting 2 guns, then a manigable LT gun and a "cheater" HG as far as caliber(I truly do hate that term. It's like the term "cheater" trumpet mouth pieces......I say they are just more efficient). I have been shooting monster kickers all of my life, and have learned to flinch them all into nice small groups in the 10 ring. So, the 300 works for me. What ever you shoot you need to practice bench & bag technique and get the load tuned. You need to have confidence in your rig.
Good luck, and rember..SOMETIMES ROOKIES GET LUCKY
TOD SOEBY
As far as wind reading skills, I have my own 1200 yard range and shoot there quite a lot. Somtimes I wait for zero wind (load development), but other times I shoot big wind. I figure, though new to 1K, I can read the wind ok, and have been doing it for years with my deer clubs. As far as a cheater caliber...I would much rather have a 70 lb, 8 inch wide, "CHEATER GUN" on mechanical front and rear rests in 6 dasher than the kicken, fire-breathing, sholder killing, brakeless, 17 LB 300 that I have now. Having to actually steer the gun ( no knob turning....squeez the bag only to get on after EACH AND EVERY shot, both verticle and L-R), can't be good for wind shooting!! The bag manners SUCK. I don't feel out gunned at all in LG, but in heavy.........way out gunned. But...it's all that I can afford. I sure would like to see the rules changed to let the guns that qualify for LT gun use brakes in HG class. The big guns don't need them (IMO). I hope to get my (EXPLODING) dasher shooting strait soon!!! I can get that up to 35 LBS and 6" wide if needed. And the no recoil thing is way cool!!! Also, and this is just my opinion, but I think proper tune, speed, and bag/bench manners are more important than wind reading.
So to the question "what caliber"...If you are shooting one gun, get something manegable, recoil wise. Some can handle lots, some.... not so much. If you are shooting 2 guns, then a manigable LT gun and a "cheater" HG as far as caliber(I truly do hate that term. It's like the term "cheater" trumpet mouth pieces......I say they are just more efficient). I have been shooting monster kickers all of my life, and have learned to flinch them all into nice small groups in the 10 ring.
So, the 300 works for me. What ever you shoot you need to practice bench & bag technique and get the load tuned. You need to have confidence in your rig.Good luck, and rember..SOMETIMES ROOKIES GET LUCKY
TOD SOEBY
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Ric
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I sure would like to see him at Byers and see how he shoots. I'm willing to learn. I'm guessing he could give Bill a run for his money.
There were a whole bunch of ND boys at the Nationals.
There were a whole bunch of ND boys at the Nationals.
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