who can i get a benchrest stock from for a remington XR100 rifle

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Danw530

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where can i get a benchrest stock from for a remington XR100 rifle

after an unforseen trip to the emergncy room i think I have decided on trying to build a good, locally competative gun on an XR100 action.

where can I get a good quality stock for it made from fiberglass, or laminate

im not looking for a gun to shoot in the .1's all day everyday

but with the factory barrel and stock and meticulious handloads it will shoot in the .3 to .4's with some ease, so i think it has potential.



any suggestions on a decent stock i can get inlet for this XR100 action?
 
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My advice is to sell the XR100 outright for just as much as you can get and go find a junkyard/pawnshop 700 in .308/30-06 (.473) boltface........ 22-250, .243, .260Rem, 6MM, .270 etc.... Don't even WORRY about model, just go for CHEAP. Now you've got something to work with AND hopefully some money in hand. Target 250 bucks for the "junk 700." Even if the finish is buggered, don't sweat it, value the savings.

These are easy to find stocks and parts for, go with McMillan or other BENCHREST stock if you want a painted piece. Absolutely do not buy one of the wannabe's like Choate or even HS Precision.......Next bestest (maybe even BETTER??) would be something like the Shehane Tracker series, build this rifle as a long-range varminter to be used also in 600-1000yd comp so's you can forget about the weight issues.

Trying to make a competitive 100-200yd rifle would be a huge mistake IMO (altho I AM currently building a 10lb HBR rifle from a 700 platform. Believe me though, I'm doing it for purity's sake NOT to save money! :) )

Build your own 6BR, save your pennies so's you can get two barrels. Get a 14twist and an 8 twist both done with the identical .060 freebore 6BR reamer and learn how to feed them and you'll have a rifle to grow old with. You can easily make it shoot a quarter inch, REALLY agg a quarter, at least with the 14twister. Reloading dies will be a HUGE part of this...... the dies are a big part of the equation all the way around. You can have a $3000.00 stick but without truly fitted dies it will NEVER SHOOT.

Now when I say "build your own" I mean stuff like pillar bedding and finishing your own stock, assembling and timing the trigger and weighting/balancing the rig. Bedding/fitting/aligning your scope bases and rings.... the nit-picky stuff. Have someone else do the barrel fitting and action work. PERIOD. You can get your stock now and play with fitting and finishing it, remember to allow for a huge BR barrel when you inlet the barrel channel. It'll look a little weird for a while but who cares.

Above all ask lots of questions from the right people and enjoy the journey. If you aren't good with your hands and really do want a turnkey piece than just sell what you've got and buy a used BR rifle, custom action.

Here are some BR stock choices.

http://www.bordenrifles.com/
http://www.scopeusout.com/ (I REALLY like these for home projects...)
http://www.kelbly.com/
http://mcmfamily.com/
http://www.rifle-stocks.com/


And lastly a link to Bruno's McMillan page in case you find a McMillan you like, Lester might have it...... http://www.brunoshooters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BSS&Category_Code=40

If you get lucky you MAY actually end up with a competitive 600-1000yd rifle for not too much more than out and out buying one. With a lot of your own trial and error.


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al
 
I thought we were talking about a short range gun now we're shooting 600yds? what do you want to use it for?
 
id like to do 1-300 yards,

i definately like the idea of the 6X45 cartridge, it would work on my bolt face,

i do have a gunsmith, and while "local" as some one mentioned, he is good.

I understand, and appreciate the comments on selling the gun, buy a BR action and the like, but the simple fact of the matter is i cant afford it right now, i didnt realize that benchrest was a sport that catered to the rich only,

I have a gun that now shoots in the low 3 and 4's with a factory barrel, i have to beleive there is some potential there. maybe im wrong, maybe not,

my initial hope is to get a nice benchrest stock, a jewell trigger and spend as much as posible on the barrel to piecemeal a gun i can compete with, i dont have to win everytime, i dont have to win at all, id be happy competing at this point as the next match will be my first, and Im a realist, i know theres a reason people spend thousands on guns to shoot, and one day hopefully i can too.

im 25, out of college and have a mortgage, i cant do it now. so please if you can help me with the options i have i GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. but please dont keep throwing out disparaging comments like throwm money at it you might as well not bother, i was hoping for bit more.
 
does anyone know who i can get a stock for the XR100 action from, the same as the XP100 action?

i dont have inletting machinery so it would have to be at least semi inlet from the get go
 
Danw530,

Let me try to be more clear :)

The REASON that the XR100 is a poor choice is because as I understand it, it's a weirdly sized action. It's shorter by almost an inch than the 700SA. Any stock made for it will probably cost quite a bit more than one for a 700. And finding a BR stock may be problematic. Furthermore there is no used market whereas the 700 parts are lying thick on the ground. Perhaps many 700 parts will interchange but stocks will not.

The REASON for selling it is because it's worth money as it is, more money than a junker 700....... and starting with a 700 opens many doors for you. I'm trying to make your money go further, not shorter. Everybody on this board understands budget and WE ALL HAVE ONE. I'm trying to get you MORE for your money than you'll get with the XR100.

The REASON for mentioning the long-range rifle option is that it'll be quite costly for you to build a legal Light Varmint 6PPC which is the standard for "Short Range Bench Rest." Done as I suggest it the gun will shoot like a mother, just won't probably be legal for the actual sport that this pertickler board is mostestly about. 95% of the competitors on THIS section of the board primarily shoot 10.5lb 6PPC's on competition, NOT the cheapest option. The 10.5lb 100-200yds rifle is perhaps the most refined class of rifle on the planet. Because of this, making a competitive one CHEAP is really hard. Going the route I suggested you've a good chance of actually ending up with a competitive rifle and you can still shoot it for 100-300 of course.

al
 
BTW, IF as you suggest, the XR100 actually does have the exact same footprint as the XP100 then there may be inlets available for reasonable...... I'd love to be wrong on this.

Anybody???


al
 
I have one of the hs junk so called br stock it sucks. Don't get me wrong I love them on hunting rifles but the br type sucks. jmho
 
any BR stock will work. any stocker that has done it before can take a stock from a farley or a panda and make it work. so finding a good used mcmillan BR stock is not a problem nor fitting it. we used to use mcmillans very effectively back when remmys were on the line. so send it to an actual BR gunsmith to get the metal work done and get the action fit to a good used stock (he should have one hangin on the wall) and then send it to a painter for a basic paint job that will make the stock work for you and it's a done deal. then you're in the game. but as good as the 6x45 sounds on paper you should really consider a PPC since the action will be down at that point already if it's worked right. then you can recieve load advice at a match plus buy used loading stuff for it. the used ppc equipment will be better than anything you will find for a 6x45 short of dropping a gold bar on the gunsmiths table. and seriously consider using a real BR gunsmith. even if the local guy is a legend on elephant rifles or gopher guns he really can't do half the job on it that needs to be done. those tricks are not taught down at the community college gunsmithing programs. not knocking your guy at all but he just won't be working to the tolerances needed to pull this off. that gun will never be competitive unless all the old tricks are brought out and it will be a discouragement and a waste of time to have a mediocre gun when you're done. I'll help in any way I can with the painting or whatever you need to get going.
 
you should really consider a PPC since the action will be down at that point already if it's worked right.

I can't disagree with what Dusty's saying except that there will be some money spent in adapting the action to "any old BR stock" and also in modifying the boltface/extraction system for use with the PPC cartridge. This seems to be getting close to spending more money than the project warrants??

Dusty? Care to share some round dollar figures for converting the XR100 to PPC? And for paying someone to re-inlet a stock?

BTW this is exactly why I recommend the 6BR on the standard 700 footprint as a fine starter/learner round which can offer great utility down the road in several competitive venues..... while being a truly superior varminting/casual round.

Nope, it AIN'T a 6PPC but then..... is it money well spent to pursue a PPC comp rifle here? I can't make the numbers work.... (and I've actually done it several times, I'd not go this route again)

REALLY, REALLY LISTEN to Dusty's advice about choice of Gunsmith. Use a REAL BR Gunsmith for the metalwork no matter what you do... you simply cannot ignore this step. Everything else can be "fixed" with a little time and energy. The metalwork just can't, without you dump your wallet flat out on the table. Several times over :(

al
 
Danw530
McMillan makes a BR stock for a XP-100. I believe the footprint is the same as the XR-100. The rear action screw for the XR-100 would have to be drilled and a anchor for the middle screw would have to be installed. Other than that I believe it would work.

Glenn

Jerry Stiller makes a action that I believe is the same footprint as the XR-100, it is the D'back so stocks should be available.
 
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who ould be a real BR gunsmith that you would reccomend, and what wouldI be looking at to have it tuned as best as possible?
 
what I was referring to is making the boltface. putting in a sako extractor, bushing the pin and fixing the ejector hole- it's another 30 seconds on the cut to make it a ppc. I believe most gunsmiths websites list the prices for each of these services.
 
..... "it's another 30 seconds on the cut to make it a ppc.".......


Ya' gots to do better than this Dusty :eek:

Dude HAS a .473 boltface. How does thirty seconds of lathe work turn a .473 bf into a 6PPC??? Or are you saying that a Sako extractor will work fine to extract the PPC case just leaving the bf alone? I'm still lost on the "30 seconds of lathe work."




Dan, the gunsmiths who advertise here on BRC as Bench Rest gunbuilders are qualified to build you a real BR rifle. Just make sure to use one who advertises rifles of the type you're looking to build. Don't use a "tactical" rifle builder for a BR gun nor a rimfire gunsmith for a centerfire. Dennis Brame is qualified to advise you on this.


al
 
and yes Al- if it was a .308 face you can get an extractor to grab a PPC. the factory one won't but if he's gonna shoot it in comp. he needs to have it done anyway. (sako that is) they're gonna weld up or fill his ejector hole and bush the pin hole and square the face anyway so yes- it will already be set up and I'm sure it won't take 30 more seconds to make that cut (figuratively speaking of course- all depends on confidence)
 
and yes Al- if it was a .308 face you can get an extractor to grab a PPC. the factory one won't but if he's gonna shoot it in comp. he needs to have it done anyway. (sako that is) they're gonna weld up or fill his ejector hole and bush the pin hole and square the face anyway so yes- it will already be set up and I'm sure it won't take 30 more seconds to make that cut (figuratively speaking of course- all depends on confidence)

Gotcha' gotcha'...... info I didn't have.

I've got converted 700's but not a .473 chambered for PPC. I do agree with the concept, I've got several Borden's and a Time Prec which are PPC w/.473 and sliding/camming extractors.

al
 
I have one of the XR-100s in .308 and love it but.... Since I have been shooting a Savage in a B&C Medalist stock, the XR-100 stock is just not viable.

I called McM and asked them about a varmint/tacticool stock for the XR and they said "no problem". Then I asked for a price :eek:

This thread has got me thinking about re-stocking the XR as mine will shoot factory match ammo exceptionally well. :D
 
im going to call kelby tomorrow, to see about an inlet for the xr. ill report back about what i find.

i think the kelby LV stock, would make a nice package.
 
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