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abintx
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component of a benchrest rifle ??? In a golf club it's the shaft. In a benchrest rifle it's the _________ ??? Why ???
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Byron
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I'm new to the game but I don't think that there is a single component that is the most important. Even in golf the shaft may be the best in the world but if the club head has the wrong lie for the person using it the shaft does no good. I think in both sports that it is the sum of the parts with the person using them playing a big part in the final outcome.
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abintx
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Byron ...
Thanks for your reply. However, I've been playing golf for 51 years and building golf clubs for 26. Believe me the shaft is the most important component. Pick the wrong one and have everything else correct and you may not get the ball off the ground. I could tell you why (has to do with Kinetic Energy) but we would get off the subject of my thread. The question again is ... What is "thee" most important component of a benchrest rifle and why ???
Thanks for your reply. However, I've been playing golf for 51 years and building golf clubs for 26. Believe me the shaft is the most important component. Pick the wrong one and have everything else correct and you may not get the ball off the ground. I could tell you why (has to do with Kinetic Energy) but we would get off the subject of my thread. The question again is ... What is "thee" most important component of a benchrest rifle and why ???
MatthewKeller
Member
Barrel and shooter. If everything else is right, if you don't have a good barrel, it doesn't matter if Tony Boyer in his PRIME would be shooting the gun, it ain't gonna win. And if you've got a pretty good barrel, if you can't read wind and know how to tune a rifle, there's no need to worry about it. Now that being said, there ARE barrels out there that will buck wind and shoot about anything you put in them, but they are few and far between. So when I say good barrel, I mean a barrel that is honest, and will shoot teen AGGS when steered correctly, any day of the week. Barrel, then shooter. (considering everything else is right, including scope) lol.
Matthew S Keller
Matthew S Keller
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Pete in Surry
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I would say - -
Bedding, Barrel and Fire control, in that order. If the bedding is not correct the rifle won't shoot well. If that is ok then the barrel is the the next consideration. If both of those are good then one needs the best, lightest trigger one can get and the right fireing pin/spring combination.
Of course great bedding can't make a crappy barrrel better but if the barreled action is walking around, it wont' be accurate. It,like a golf club, is a system.
Bedding, Barrel and Fire control, in that order. If the bedding is not correct the rifle won't shoot well. If that is ok then the barrel is the the next consideration. If both of those are good then one needs the best, lightest trigger one can get and the right fireing pin/spring combination.
Of course great bedding can't make a crappy barrrel better but if the barreled action is walking around, it wont' be accurate. It,like a golf club, is a system.
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GLF
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absolutely the SHOOTER.............
everybody in our sport have the best equipment/combo of equipment on the bench, the real difference is the SHOOTER
my 0.02 euro cent words
Gian
everybody in our sport have the best equipment/combo of equipment on the bench, the real difference is the SHOOTER
my 0.02 euro cent words
Gian
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Mike Marcelli
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Well, to start you have to have a scope that holds zero or none of the other crap matters. After that, the things that separate a winner from an also ran are barrel, bullets and powder . . . not necessarily in that order.
Sure, the things that some folks have mentioned, like bedding and fire control are important and you cannot have a great shooting rifle without them, but IMO, the things that differentiate the winners from the also rans are (1) scope; and (2) bullets, barrel and powder.
Sure, the things that some folks have mentioned, like bedding and fire control are important and you cannot have a great shooting rifle without them, but IMO, the things that differentiate the winners from the also rans are (1) scope; and (2) bullets, barrel and powder.
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double s
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most important thing
with all that has been said why do I always hear that if you don't have a custom action then you are wasting your time, which by the way I don't buy that story because my trued XR-100 Rem action on my 30x47 shoots as good as anything I've seen anywhere......... Double S
with all that has been said why do I always hear that if you don't have a custom action then you are wasting your time, which by the way I don't buy that story because my trued XR-100 Rem action on my 30x47 shoots as good as anything I've seen anywhere......... Double S
Dick Grosbier
Club Coordinator
Barrel
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eww1350
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Definately the barrel..
I believe it is primarily the barrel...If one does not agree, contact me because I want to sell you all of my used barrels at $300 each since they will shoot as good as a new one..
In fact I can provide many, many barrels if you will pay the price..
I believe it is primarily the barrel...If one does not agree, contact me because I want to sell you all of my used barrels at $300 each since they will shoot as good as a new one..
In fact I can provide many, many barrels if you will pay the price..
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GLF
Guest
Joe around 0.009 $ wow
wish to seya at the SS in may
Gian
wish to seya at the SS in may
Gian
Andy Shifflett
New member
Powder!
You can have the best barrel, bullet, scope and stock combination money can buy and when your powder goes, it all goes. Unless you have a piece of equipment malfunction, which does happen but is rare, the only variable you have that is constantly changing is powder.
Andy
You can have the best barrel, bullet, scope and stock combination money can buy and when your powder goes, it all goes. Unless you have a piece of equipment malfunction, which does happen but is rare, the only variable you have that is constantly changing is powder.
Andy
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j mckinnie
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in all reality
your bank balance is the highest common denominator,followed by time & commitment.Everyone will have a different answer ,there is no answer.
Good luck Jim
your bank balance is the highest common denominator,followed by time & commitment.Everyone will have a different answer ,there is no answer.
Good luck Jim
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abintx
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Lou ...
Please pick one. The most important one ??? Thanks, Art
Please pick one. The most important one ??? Thanks, Art
David Halblom
Flying Fish Fundamentals
Roger T
Member
Load
Loads. You can get a bad barrel to shoot better with a load TUNED for it.Take for instance a factory barrel ,with the proper handload you can reduce groups to as much half or more of factory loads. IMHO I don't think you can get that much percentage of decreese in groups with any other single item
Loads. You can get a bad barrel to shoot better with a load TUNED for it.Take for instance a factory barrel ,with the proper handload you can reduce groups to as much half or more of factory loads. IMHO I don't think you can get that much percentage of decreese in groups with any other single item
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caroby
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Shooter and Time...
Yes...... Absolutly!
Francis hit it dead on the head..........!
Wether rookie ("newbie") or seasoned vet.... Ya gotta recognize the issue/issues hurting your competitiveness.
Yes I did say rookies as well cause they need to find experienced help in diagnosing equiptment issues and shooting techniques to become competitive eventually.
If ya don't pipe up and search out help, your gonna get very frustrated and possibly quit a wonderful sport!
Fortunately there is Benchrest Central to gain good knowledge. Thanks Wilbur!
Also............
Your bank balance is the highest common denominator,followed by time & commitment.Everyone will have a different answer ,there is no answer.
Good luck Jim
This don't hurt either.... Espcially the Time part.
cale
Yes...... Absolutly!
Francis hit it dead on the head..........!
Wether rookie ("newbie") or seasoned vet.... Ya gotta recognize the issue/issues hurting your competitiveness.
Yes I did say rookies as well cause they need to find experienced help in diagnosing equiptment issues and shooting techniques to become competitive eventually.
If ya don't pipe up and search out help, your gonna get very frustrated and possibly quit a wonderful sport!
Fortunately there is Benchrest Central to gain good knowledge. Thanks Wilbur!
Also............
Your bank balance is the highest common denominator,followed by time & commitment.Everyone will have a different answer ,there is no answer.
Good luck Jim
This don't hurt either.... Espcially the Time part.
cale
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abintx
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I've always read and heard that the ...
"action" was the heart and soul of the benchrest rifle ... but maybe that came from the action manufacturers. My personal belief was the barrel. I say was, because I think I've now changed my mind. I think Mike Marcelli hit the nail on the head when he said earlier: If you don't have a "SCOPE that can hold zero" everything else is irrelevant. And, as I've read here many times, the last real battle for perfection of the system, seems to have been the introduction of frozen scopes and their partner, the external scope adjustment. So Mike, I think you've got it right !!! Some, that small group on the ragged edge, might say the barrel tuner but that's a contentious path to go down and it's too early in the day for that. Art
"action" was the heart and soul of the benchrest rifle ... but maybe that came from the action manufacturers. My personal belief was the barrel. I say was, because I think I've now changed my mind. I think Mike Marcelli hit the nail on the head when he said earlier: If you don't have a "SCOPE that can hold zero" everything else is irrelevant. And, as I've read here many times, the last real battle for perfection of the system, seems to have been the introduction of frozen scopes and their partner, the external scope adjustment. So Mike, I think you've got it right !!! Some, that small group on the ragged edge, might say the barrel tuner but that's a contentious path to go down and it's too early in the day for that. Art