I was wondering to all the people out there who shoot SR score. If you had the choice of settling a tie score at the end of a match, would you prefer the current creedmore system or would you prefer some sort of a shoot-off between the 2 shooters who ended with a tie?
You have some good points there Jackie.Three years ago, the NBRSA adopted, on a one year probationary trial, using "wipeouts"in the event of a tie. In other words, if two shooters tied with the same X count, the number of wipeouts determined the higher placing.
It seemed like a good Idea, except going back and using the reticle on every target was tedious. Sometimes, you had more than one tie for all of the top five, so that got to be e real hassle.
When it came up for a vote after the probationary period, it was voted down, and we went back to the Creedmore.
That is the only viable method I can see that would have been an option. Having shoot offs would just take up more time, and other shooters not involved might want to get on the road.
Also, many shooters come to score matches preloaded. What if they didn't have any load rounds left.
I have won by Creedmore, and lost by it. I guess in the end, it evens out.
You have some good points there Jackie.
A smaller target would fix things, probably. What if we shot the 200 yards on the current 100 yard target and the 100 on some version of the 50 yard rimfire target? Just a thought.
Harold
Jim
I shoot trap as well rifle score shooting. I enjoy nothing better than being in a shoot off. It's just not feasible time wise for rifle shooting.
In score shooting the creedmore work's the best.
Example: one year at the grand American nationals trapshooting Leo Harrison & Foster Barthalow both broke 200 straight in the championship 16 yard event they went another 900 straight in the shoot off!! they decided to call it a draw and be co champions. It took three day's.
A smaller target would fix things, probably. What if we shot the 200 yards on the current 100 yard target and the 100 on some version of the 50 yard rimfire target? Just a thought.
Harold
Jackie. What if only match 1 was looked at and whoever had the most wipe-outs would win? If it was a tie, then match 2 would determine the winner and so on?Three years ago, the NBRSA adopted, on a one year probationary trial, using "wipeouts"in the event of a tie. In other words, if two shooters tied with the same X count, the number of wipeouts determined the higher placing.
It seemed like a good Idea, except going back and using the reticle on every target was tedious. Sometimes, you had more than one tie for all of the top five, so that got to be e real hassle.
When it came up for a vote after the probationary period, it was voted down, and we went back to the Creedmore.
That is the only viable method I can see that would have been an option. Having shoot offs would just take up more time, and other shooters not involved might want to get on the road.
Also, many shooters come to score matches preloaded. What if they didn't have any load rounds left.
I have won by Creedmore, and lost by it. I guess in the end, it evens out.
Jackie. What if only match 1 was looked at and whoever had the most wipe-outs would win? If it was a tie, then match 2 would determine the winner and so on?
I can't see how making the target smaller would change anything. UBR's targets are smaller in relation to bullet size than the IBS/NBRSA targets and we still have ties. Smaller targets would just mean fewer x's and 10's. You would still have ties. As has been mentioned shoot off's would mean longer matches and I'm pretty sure that I would get complaints as match director if we had to keep folks from picking up their flags and leaving. The Creedmore rule still looks like the best option from my POV.This is what was done in "F" class.......... and it works.......
bill
I can't see how making the target smaller would change anything. UBR's targets are smaller in relation to bullet size than the IBS/NBRSA targets and we still have ties. Smaller targets would just mean fewer x's and 10's. You would still have ties. As has been mentioned shoot off's would mean longer matches and I'm pretty sure that I would get complaints as match director if we had to keep folks from picking up their flags and leaving. The Creedmore rule still looks like the best option from my POV.
Rick
It seems a bit unfair to the competitors not involved in the tie to have to wait to gather flags and break down their gear while a shoot off occurs.
A smaller target would fix things, probably.