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Charles,
In a situation where scoring is done manually, or compiled in something like a spreadsheet, then I can understand your confusion. But keep in mind the system used at the world open is not just a simple spreadsheet. It also does not end at the match. Results are entered in a very friendly system that makes scoring almost automatic. Targets are often scored before the next relay is firing record rounds, and that is with a delay for transportation, and a 5 min setup limit for the next relay. It was also designed with much more in mind than it does today. Currently, the data it handles is sent automatically to the club website and from there, all calculations of everything imaginable are done instantly. Results are on the web literally seconds after the decision has been made to finalize the match. Not just a JPG of the wailing wall, but actual data. So the website is another application in addition to the one used at the club to run the match, but the two are mutually dependent. The club version won't display results (doesn't even calculate them) and the web app can't work without the club database data. So, changing formats isn't really an option.
It also has the capability to do real-time results. Up until recently, there was no broadband internet available at the PA Club so this was not possible. BUT, it was written with that possibility in mind. It is possible (with rather extensive but simple changes) to have all data live on the web. This would mean you could sit at the cleaning bench with your Droid and see the match results before the targets came out. More useful tho, a person not at the match could follow the results as the day goes on. I know for a fact this would be a much used feature if it was ever put in place.
But still, even if they wanted to, the time requirements for finishing the match at PA preclude your idea of any shootoff. There simply is no time. Furthermore, if they did and scrap the system in use today, I would bet some serious money that the match would not run anywhere near as well because there would be a 'new' time problem created by all the newly wasted time. That just from a more clumsy system. In other words, it is so easy there now, everyone takes for granted how the matches run. Ok, but, it IS possible to go back to the old way. And even likely...
In the interest of fairness, I think people get tunnel vision. They look at a situation and say, X is more fair than Y. Ok, perhaps that is true, but X may well be grossly unfair compared to situation Z. So, what they do is make all sorts of noise about how they have this super fair idea when in fact, they'd not given a lick of thought to how unfair it might be.
Personally, I like the system where we measure our targets and score them. If mine is better than yours, I finish ahead of you. It's easy, it's fair, and it eliminates people saying they got hosed cause of some situational event. Not like many of these ideas where the shooter who shoots best may well not end up the winner. And, if the wind causes someone a bad day, by all means go complain to it.
In a situation where scoring is done manually, or compiled in something like a spreadsheet, then I can understand your confusion. But keep in mind the system used at the world open is not just a simple spreadsheet. It also does not end at the match. Results are entered in a very friendly system that makes scoring almost automatic. Targets are often scored before the next relay is firing record rounds, and that is with a delay for transportation, and a 5 min setup limit for the next relay. It was also designed with much more in mind than it does today. Currently, the data it handles is sent automatically to the club website and from there, all calculations of everything imaginable are done instantly. Results are on the web literally seconds after the decision has been made to finalize the match. Not just a JPG of the wailing wall, but actual data. So the website is another application in addition to the one used at the club to run the match, but the two are mutually dependent. The club version won't display results (doesn't even calculate them) and the web app can't work without the club database data. So, changing formats isn't really an option.
It also has the capability to do real-time results. Up until recently, there was no broadband internet available at the PA Club so this was not possible. BUT, it was written with that possibility in mind. It is possible (with rather extensive but simple changes) to have all data live on the web. This would mean you could sit at the cleaning bench with your Droid and see the match results before the targets came out. More useful tho, a person not at the match could follow the results as the day goes on. I know for a fact this would be a much used feature if it was ever put in place.
But still, even if they wanted to, the time requirements for finishing the match at PA preclude your idea of any shootoff. There simply is no time. Furthermore, if they did and scrap the system in use today, I would bet some serious money that the match would not run anywhere near as well because there would be a 'new' time problem created by all the newly wasted time. That just from a more clumsy system. In other words, it is so easy there now, everyone takes for granted how the matches run. Ok, but, it IS possible to go back to the old way. And even likely...
In the interest of fairness, I think people get tunnel vision. They look at a situation and say, X is more fair than Y. Ok, perhaps that is true, but X may well be grossly unfair compared to situation Z. So, what they do is make all sorts of noise about how they have this super fair idea when in fact, they'd not given a lick of thought to how unfair it might be.
Personally, I like the system where we measure our targets and score them. If mine is better than yours, I finish ahead of you. It's easy, it's fair, and it eliminates people saying they got hosed cause of some situational event. Not like many of these ideas where the shooter who shoots best may well not end up the winner. And, if the wind causes someone a bad day, by all means go complain to it.
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