Wichita 1375 action questions

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What would be the value of a Wichita 1375 action with ppc boltface? Is the Wichita 1375 a decent action for building something like a 30 br rifle with? They don't have any recoil lug on the round action and I was wondering if it can be used without a recoil lug? I really wasn't wanting to glue it in a stock and was wondering if it could be used with a lug something like on a remington rifle. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
1375 Wichita

Many are still used in benchrest today.
They were one of the first that you could exchange a bolt or a barrel with little or no help from a gunsmith.
I have one that has a recoil lug that the gunsmith put on when I had it reballed. Used-- they usually go for at least $600.00
Cassidy
 
What would be the value of a Wichita 1375 action with ppc boltface? Is the Wichita 1375 a decent action for building something like a 30 br rifle with? They don't have any recoil lug on the round action and I was wondering if it can be used without a recoil lug? I really wasn't wanting to glue it in a stock and was wondering if it could be used with a lug something like on a remington rifle. Thanks in advance for any help.

Pretty much worthless, so send it to me so I can dispose of it.;)

Seriously, I seem to recall an unused action that sat on GunBroker for a long time at around $850 with no bids, so that must be more than it is worth. The Wichita seems to be a good enough starter action for benchrest competition. You hear this all the time, but my Wichita 30BR seems to be capable of shooting better than I can aim it. If you do a search on this site, you will find a long thread on the advantages and disadvantages of three-lug actions. The steep cocking ramp is something that is noticeable relative to a two-lug. It takes more force to lift the bolt, which may upset the gun in the bags. The ramp can be tuned up, but is unlikely to ever be as smooth as a two-lug. The bolt handle is short on the Wichita compared to most BR actions manufactured today, which also increases the bolt lift force. Pressing down on the bolt shroud while lifting the bolt helps. Lightening the spring helps, but you can get in trouble with too light a spring. You may also have to hold the buttstock to keep from rocking the gun during bolt lift.

On the other hand, three points define a plane, while two points define the fulcrum of a rocker. This may be the greatest perceived advantage of a three-lug action, however in practice, the benefit is debatable.

The biggest disadvantage of the Wichita is that, so far as I know, they were only available in right bolt right port and left bolt left port. (***Wrong, see the following posts.***) This makes loading and shooting quickly difficult.

You can certainly glue it in without a recoil lug, but I would recommend a lug for screw-in. You may get other opinions from those on this site with more expertise than me, but the accuracy benefits of glue-in seem to be pretty clearly established. It's not a big deal to pop the action out of a glue-in if and when you need to, so why do anything else? You do want your gun to be as accurate as it can be, right?

Hope this helps,
Keith
 
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Mine is right bolt with a left sided port. Serial # is 18x.
Cassidy
 
Mine is a left bolt right port, serial #17X. When did they start being made with a cone bolt?......Ian

Thanks, Cassidy and Ian on the RBLP and LBRP info. Re the coned bolt, serial # 5XX is unconed (the bolt is also very tightly fitted and unfluted), while 11XX has a sloppier, unfluted and coned bolt. Are yours unfluted and unconed?

Cheers,
Keith
 
I have Wichita # 27 RBRP and the bolt is unfluted and has flat faced bolt (unconed) .

I once saw a left hand round barrel sporter in .223.
The metal work and finishing was exceptional .
You could not tell where the barrel met the action .

And the stock -checkering was incrediable with fine quality wood from Bishop ? I believe .
I looked at this rifle for over one half hour in the back room at Guncraft and could not find a single fault............

Glenn:D
 
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The action in question is right bolt, left port, coned and fluted bolt, serial # 111X. How large of lug needs to be installed on the bottom of the reciever and how far back from the front of the receiver? Thanks
 
Use a lug like a Remington 700. There are some out there that are .25 thick and will go between the barrel and the action.
Mine which is RB/LP is not fluted and has a flat fron t. Serial # 11x.
Cassidy
 
Ihave one and its a good action. Very strong one for benchrest. Only problem is cocks a tad hard.
I have a 6mm dasher built on mine and it works fine. If it had a roller on the cocking piece like the three lug bat it would be exceptional. My action is a right bolt left port also. By the way wichita still makes them along with that small one with the shell holder bolt..
 
They have a web-site. Believe they use a similar action in their Varmint rifles but I do not believe that they sell Benchrest Actions.
Cassidy
 
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