When is it time to Re-Bed an Action?

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I have a Remington long action in a Davidson sleeve that has been bedded for about 10 years in a McMillan MBR stock. It is pillar bedded with Devcon. The sleeve is not as tight in the bedding as it was originally and I'm just wondering if it would be beneficial to re-bed at this time. This is a long range benchrest rifle so minute changes in accuracy are not easily detected. Does such bedding normally require re-bedding after several years of use? Thanks for your response.
 
Do the old loosen a screw test

Shoot a group loosen the front screw shoot a group then tighten and loosen the back shoot another.............did it move?
 
You have the other element to consider too.

Now you're worried about the bedding, how long will it be before your brain is really fried?

Have it rebedded now & stay cool! :cool:
 
I'm not sure that the loosening and tightening wil tell you much unless the group SIZE changes after you re-tighten.

I would ask myself the following questions:

Are the groups erratic? (Probably the mose telling symptom)

Under close inspection are there any critical points of contact that are chipped or loose?

Does the action bed firmly after the action screws are tightened?

If you can answer yes to either of the first two or no to the last then it's time.
 
Actually, the loosen the rear screw leaving the front screw tight, shooting a shot, loosening the front screw, tightening the rear screw shooting a shot, both screws tight, shooting a shot is one of the ways to check your bedding job. With a good bedding job, there will be little displacement in where the bullet goes in the group regardless of how tight or loose the guard screws are. If the shot goes somewhere differently then that's an indication that there is something wrong with the bedding, whether it's a hump in the bedding or the tang being low. Back in the 80's Bob Pease had a series of booklets published and this was one of the ways that he suggested checking bedding.

An easier way to test the bedding is with a dial indicator attached to the barrel in front of the forend with the indicator point resting against the forend. Loosen off one screw at a time, the dial indicator shouldn't move anymore than .002" from full tight to loose with either front or rear screw. If it moves more than that, then the bedding isn't stress free. The sole purpose of bedding an action is to allow it to lay in the stock with no stress. The purpose of pillars is so that over zealous tightening of the guard screws will not compress the bedding and result in damage to the bedding job. Using the dial indicator at the forend is an amplification of the amount of movement between the action and the bedding area. With .002" movement or less at the forend, the action is moving away from the bedding area considerably less than that.
 
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An easier way to test the bedding is with a dial indicator attached to the barrel in front of the forend with the indicator point resting against the forend. Loosen off one screw at a time, the dial indicator shouldn't move anymore than .002" from full tight to loose with either front or rear screw. If it moves more than that, then the bedding isn't stress free.

Mike, Do you know a Texas gunsmith by the name Felix Jarrett? I think he was in the Austin area but don't remember for sure. He did some work for me many years ago and was getting up in years then so he may no longer be living. He checked bedding the exact same way you described. He also checked his new bedding jobs this way to insure they had no problems. Thanks, Joel
 
I remember Felix's name and remember shooting with him a long time back. I just have a face with a name and that's about all I remember. It's been awhile and haven't seen him in a long time. Someone else from that area of Texas might know more. I'm about 500 miles north of New Braunfels, still in Texas, but barely. We've lost a lot of the old time benchrest shooters and some that weren't so old in the past several years.
 
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