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What's up with the 300 Hybrid???
- Thread starter alinwa
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4Mesh
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Sounds like maybe early estimates were slightly optimistic vs real world efficiency testing?
Maybe they found the knock-out punches didn't hold up when sized to make an 891bc.
So point em...
Maybe they found the knock-out punches didn't hold up when sized to make an 891bc.
So point em...
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WAMBO
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Are you talking about the redesigned bullet?
I've been shooting the Berger Hybrid 300gr .338 bullet for over a year now.
The original published BC of .891 was reduced to .818 back in June 2010.
Like 4Mesh said I think they were slightly optimistic about their original published BC.
Here's a link to bulletin that tells about it, scroll down to the one dated June 7, 2010.
http://02b0516.netsolhost.com/blog1/
The Tactical bullet you speak of is the 2nd generation 300gr .338 hybrid that has a thicker jacket to be able to withstand higher velocities.
Read about it here:
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/berger-300-gr-hybrid-gen-2-a-70986/
Hope this sheds some light on the subject.
I've been shooting the Berger Hybrid 300gr .338 bullet for over a year now.
The original published BC of .891 was reduced to .818 back in June 2010.
Like 4Mesh said I think they were slightly optimistic about their original published BC.
Here's a link to bulletin that tells about it, scroll down to the one dated June 7, 2010.
http://02b0516.netsolhost.com/blog1/
The Tactical bullet you speak of is the 2nd generation 300gr .338 hybrid that has a thicker jacket to be able to withstand higher velocities.
Read about it here:
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/berger-300-gr-hybrid-gen-2-a-70986/
Hope this sheds some light on the subject.
Al, they dropped the BC to .818 with the first generation, too, after some real world testing. As I understand it -- do a Google search -- the new "tactical" bullets are identical except for a thicker jacket.
So I rushed out and bought up some of the Gen 1 bullets. Last match out, in the shootoff, I shot a 3.7 inch group. Sadly, it was the score shootoff, & I wasn't centered up quite as well as the winner (he shot a 50). But I *was* in the shootoff, and the rifle grouped well on a bad day. I'll spare you the weather report.
I'm shooting them in a .338/404, at 2,775. No problems at all. Scott Fletcher shoots them at 2,850 in his bigger .338. His "Yogi" is a well-known wildcat, the "Bambi" I believe is on the newer .338 Norma case. He doesn't try to push them hard. I'm told different rifles, well, differ.
It was apparently the .338 Lapua pushed hard, or the improved .338 Lapua like the Yogi which was giving consistent problems. The new press release says the heavier bullets are fine with the bigger cases.
BUT, as I remember your .338 project was a hunting rifle. You might well be better off with Generation I & slightly slower speed, if the bullets need to expand.
Edit: Forgot to mention: Scott had a 4.144 inch, 10-shot group (HG Shootoff) for match 4. In spite of the match report, these were the Bergers.
So I rushed out and bought up some of the Gen 1 bullets. Last match out, in the shootoff, I shot a 3.7 inch group. Sadly, it was the score shootoff, & I wasn't centered up quite as well as the winner (he shot a 50). But I *was* in the shootoff, and the rifle grouped well on a bad day. I'll spare you the weather report.
I'm shooting them in a .338/404, at 2,775. No problems at all. Scott Fletcher shoots them at 2,850 in his bigger .338. His "Yogi" is a well-known wildcat, the "Bambi" I believe is on the newer .338 Norma case. He doesn't try to push them hard. I'm told different rifles, well, differ.
It was apparently the .338 Lapua pushed hard, or the improved .338 Lapua like the Yogi which was giving consistent problems. The new press release says the heavier bullets are fine with the bigger cases.
BUT, as I remember your .338 project was a hunting rifle. You might well be better off with Generation I & slightly slower speed, if the bullets need to expand.
Edit: Forgot to mention: Scott had a 4.144 inch, 10-shot group (HG Shootoff) for match 4. In spite of the match report, these were the Bergers.
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That's weird.... I was ordering from PVA and getting the boxes marked .891 until (I thought?) about a year ago when supply dried up. this was AFTER a big lull while Berger redesigned the bullet......I've been waiting for Berger to ship what I thought was gen III stuff.
Soooo, I've got several setups and although the original project rifle is for hunting I am making 2 heavy gun setups for comp.
Ohh well, this isn't the first time I've been confused
al
Soooo, I've got several setups and although the original project rifle is for hunting I am making 2 heavy gun setups for comp.
Ohh well, this isn't the first time I've been confused
al