weight system for a LV ppc

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skeetlee

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whats the proper way to make a weight system for a LV 6ppc? I have a pre- drilled hole in my stock of .975 x 6".
My father is a tool make for GE and i think he can make me what i need. What i have in mind is an internal sleeve made of aluminum with inside threads. I will then have him make me a brass plug or weigh with external threads that will screw itself into the internal housing. Is this along the lines of a proper weight system that will be flexible, yet effective? I have a couple other ideas but i do not want any vibrations. I think i will end up needing around 6oz tops to properly balance this rifle. I drew up a little sketch or print and if i can get it uploaded into this lap top i will share. Just want to do this properly so i am open to all information. I would like to do this myself as i feel it is doable. Thanks Lee

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As you can see i am not engineer but my father will get the idea with a little explaining. Sorry this is a bit hard to read. Again fellas any thoughts or ideas are much appreciated. I also thought about just tapping a 4 or 5 ox piece of brass to the butt plate but i am afraid it will vibrate, but maybe it wont if i use the proper machine screw? I like the idea with the internal sleeve, that way i can move the weight up and down the stock as desired. In my print i called for only a 4" sleeve but maybe i should go the full 6" allowed? I just don't want my sleeve weighing to much. One problem we may have is having the proper tap and die to make this darn thing. I am assuming a die needs to be used to cut the inside threads in the housing or sleeve. I am sure dad will have no troubles cutting the threads on the actual weight. If we had to buy these tools, none of this will make any since, if i can buy a system already made. thats another question i have to keep in mind. Lee
 
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Lee,

That system would be very similar to a system that Dwight Scott made and contracted another fellow to produce.

Dwights system was an aluminum sleeve that was bedded into the but area of the stock. The inside of the sleeve was threaded, and a cap screw was placed in a plug. The cap screw would hold any number of wieghts, then you would screw the plug into the stock. It could be used to ballance the LV rifle correctly with any suitable barrel. The key was to have the system bedded nice and straight and tight. Those weights if not very tight would rattle around causing some wierd harmonics.

If I remember correctly some of the stocks, originally dwight designed (Scoville, Metric) were standard with that system installed.

I have a Pierce Stock with that system, My Dad has a Metric stock with that system, and I have a TM stock with it all the stocks worked well for LV group shooting.

I think you are on the right track with the system you are talking about.

Paul

btw: Is the stock that you have that has the hole in it an Edge? Let me know how it works for you.
 
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I would use the full 6 inches. You can always reduce the diameter of the weight forward
of the threads. You could also make weights of different materials. By using the full
depth, the weight can be slightly tensioned against the bottom of the recess. This would
minimize vibrations. Should you decide to add a heavier barrel, the extra weight may work
out well.
 
I have a stock Tom Meredith did . It has allen head screws holding on the butt plate. Two pieces of steel barrel stock ar bolted to the inside of tthe stock with 1/4 28 allen head screws. they screw into a steel anchor epoxied into the stock. To remove the weight Just loosten up the but plate take out one screw and swing the plate up.
Then you have access to the Two pieces of barrel steel and screws . They are solid and don't move adding enough weight in the butt for the HV class.
 
You may want to have him cut some o-ring grooves in the weight and cut the weight a bit undersized. The o-rings will keep it from rattling around with a snug fit --Mike Ezell
 
Lee- Most LV rifles I have checked for balance have the balance point 1 1/2 to 2 inches forward of the front of the action. What about 13 1/2 pound HV rifles- where do they typically balance?
 
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Lee- Most LV rifles I have checked for balance have the balance point 1 1/2 to 2 inches forward of the front of the action. What about 13 1/2 pound HV rifles- where do they typically balance?
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I'm not Lee, but IMO, a bit farther forward with 13.5lb guns..particularly the 30's. Maybe even to about 3 inches. From there, it depends on the rest, shooting angle and such.--Mike Ezell
 
Lee,

Send me a txt and I'll send you a pic of what you need. Don't complicate the simple.

Hovis
 
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