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nipper
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Just wondering sense i am new to the game, is there a typical pay back from shooting in a match, as in $$$ not payback in a "good time" ..
Bill
Bill
Depends
Bill:
You need to take into consideration, the operational costs and any other amenities offered by the hosting club. If a club can't make a enough to pay expenses, it will shut down, or maybe someone else will foot the bill, until they lose money. If you want to shoot for money, then attend some of the PSL events, they have a guaranteed pay out of $5,000 per match and an addittional minimum $5,000 at the end of the year.
Bill:
You need to take into consideration, the operational costs and any other amenities offered by the hosting club. If a club can't make a enough to pay expenses, it will shut down, or maybe someone else will foot the bill, until they lose money. If you want to shoot for money, then attend some of the PSL events, they have a guaranteed pay out of $5,000 per match and an addittional minimum $5,000 at the end of the year.
Bill Wynne
Active member
Bill,
We shoot 50/50 for the fun of it down here. I always go the range with the thought that I am going win and beat my friends. It is almost as much fun when they beat me. We need to save our money for important things like bullets and barrels and triggers and such.
Concho Bill
We shoot 50/50 for the fun of it down here. I always go the range with the thought that I am going win and beat my friends. It is almost as much fun when they beat me. We need to save our money for important things like bullets and barrels and triggers and such.
Concho Bill
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nipper
Guest
bill,
i am hooked on this game because of good friends at the ranges and gun clubs but just wondered if there were any paybacks at shoots.
bill
i am hooked on this game because of good friends at the ranges and gun clubs but just wondered if there were any paybacks at shoots.
bill
Bill Wynne
Active member
Bill,
We rimfire shooters at our club work like this:
We belong to the club and pay our dues yearly which covers the range expense.
We collect $5.00 from each shooter for each match to pay for the targets and the fees to 50/50, as well as, for bottled water and ice. As that kitty grows we spend for minor things that are needed for our part of the range.
The guys who shoot centerfire benchrest at our club charge $10.00 and give five of it to the club and then gives five of it to the winners.
I hope this helps.
Concho Bill
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cwop
Guest
money
you guys need to be very happy to have a range. it seems a new subdevision moved close to a range in columbia, mo. you guessed it the range is now on restricted hours because its was just too noisy.
as far as making any money at b/r good luck. its just like any other hobby a place to have fun, make friends and enjoy yourself. there will always be that top guy for whatever reason that sets the bar for anything.
from my experience so far it gets very expensive and the traveling expenses can get out of hand on top of that.
lots of good shooters and lots of pride note the shoot at st. louis last sat 4 shooters showed up to excell at this hobby the worst weather i have seen for a long time and they were still there.
bob
you guys need to be very happy to have a range. it seems a new subdevision moved close to a range in columbia, mo. you guessed it the range is now on restricted hours because its was just too noisy.
as far as making any money at b/r good luck. its just like any other hobby a place to have fun, make friends and enjoy yourself. there will always be that top guy for whatever reason that sets the bar for anything.
from my experience so far it gets very expensive and the traveling expenses can get out of hand on top of that.
lots of good shooters and lots of pride note the shoot at st. louis last sat 4 shooters showed up to excell at this hobby the worst weather i have seen for a long time and they were still there.
bob
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shootinwv
Guest
It seems the same in any sort of competition that you get into. I raced karts for years and it was the same way. I found myself guilty of spending thousands to be prepared for money races that only paid $1,000 to win. We certainly dont take part in any of these things expecting to make money, but we sure do have a ton of fun and get to meet some great people along the way.
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Joe Haller
Guest
A change at our club . . .
Seems the "typical" awards payback in rifle matches back on the 1950s and 60s were Blackingon Medals and NRA Silver. Maybe some trophies. Now the thing in benchrest seems to be "Wood": Plaques with a picture of a shooter with engraving on a plastic or metal plate.
At our club we gave up on giving out "awards" maybe 15 years ago. The club officers here are slow learners, but it finally came to them that just a very few shooters were going home with all the awards. The average guy went home with a memory. A lot of them never came back for a second match. We stopped the award bleeding and started "luck of the draw" raffles. We lowered our entry fees and during lunch break, we started to sell tickets for 50/50 and shooting related Door Prizes.
It's working here. Now we pull in more shooters, and make more money for the club at our events: Rimfire, Cowboy, 3 Gun Tactical, IDPA, Trap & Skeet. We put the money into range improvements, our local High School Smallbore Rifle Team, and 4-H Junior Trap Team. Yea: And we make more money on our Rimfire BR matches than any of the other games we play.
We give the winners "Bragging Rights" and nothing more. We all get the FUN.
Joe Haller (Mr. Frosty)
Chippewa County Shooting Association
Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan
Seems the "typical" awards payback in rifle matches back on the 1950s and 60s were Blackingon Medals and NRA Silver. Maybe some trophies. Now the thing in benchrest seems to be "Wood": Plaques with a picture of a shooter with engraving on a plastic or metal plate.
At our club we gave up on giving out "awards" maybe 15 years ago. The club officers here are slow learners, but it finally came to them that just a very few shooters were going home with all the awards. The average guy went home with a memory. A lot of them never came back for a second match. We stopped the award bleeding and started "luck of the draw" raffles. We lowered our entry fees and during lunch break, we started to sell tickets for 50/50 and shooting related Door Prizes.
It's working here. Now we pull in more shooters, and make more money for the club at our events: Rimfire, Cowboy, 3 Gun Tactical, IDPA, Trap & Skeet. We put the money into range improvements, our local High School Smallbore Rifle Team, and 4-H Junior Trap Team. Yea: And we make more money on our Rimfire BR matches than any of the other games we play.
We give the winners "Bragging Rights" and nothing more. We all get the FUN.
Joe Haller (Mr. Frosty)
Chippewa County Shooting Association
Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan
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cadillacjack
Guest
Secret to making a small fortune in rimfire benchrest
Start with a large one!!!!!!!
Start with a large one!!!!!!!
bob finger
New member
Jack just nailed it. Same with other shooting disciplines. On the other hand my most cherished wins are when I'm at the range with a few others and we bet a coke on a card or two. That nice cold and wet drink cost me a fortune in rifles, ammo, gear, gas, time, effort but it sure tastes good when someone else had to pay the 50 cents for it. You don't think guys buckle down a bit more over a coke? Try it and see what happens. Priceless! bob finger
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Joe Haller
Guest
On the other hand . . . We do that up here.
We don't have a Coke machine in our clubhouse, but we have windows with ports we can shoot out of during the cold Upper Peninsula winters. Our big thing UP here is rimfire in the summer, but three of us have been shooting NRA Bullseye Pistol all winter through those windows inside the heated building.
Anyway with no Coke machine, we have been shooting for quarters, and I have lost a lot of quarters to Bill Jones this winter. Bill is without a doubt our club's best Pistol and Rimfire BR shooter. Last Thursday afternoon I finally beat him. It cost me several quarters, but I REALLY tried my best, with those quarters on the table. I improved my shooting and in the end got "satisfaction".
Seems to me that a lot of shooters deny themselves the satisfaction of shooting under the pressure of competition. They deny themselves the opportunity to improve their markmanship skills and the emotional "rush" that goes with competition. And why? I think the main reason is ego. I can think of other reasons, but that seems to be the main one.
I don't think that way. I believe every shooter who steps up to the firing line and shoots in a match is a winner. The only loosers are those who don't come out to the range to shoot the match.
Joe Haller
We don't have a Coke machine in our clubhouse, but we have windows with ports we can shoot out of during the cold Upper Peninsula winters. Our big thing UP here is rimfire in the summer, but three of us have been shooting NRA Bullseye Pistol all winter through those windows inside the heated building.
Anyway with no Coke machine, we have been shooting for quarters, and I have lost a lot of quarters to Bill Jones this winter. Bill is without a doubt our club's best Pistol and Rimfire BR shooter. Last Thursday afternoon I finally beat him. It cost me several quarters, but I REALLY tried my best, with those quarters on the table. I improved my shooting and in the end got "satisfaction".
Seems to me that a lot of shooters deny themselves the satisfaction of shooting under the pressure of competition. They deny themselves the opportunity to improve their markmanship skills and the emotional "rush" that goes with competition. And why? I think the main reason is ego. I can think of other reasons, but that seems to be the main one.
I don't think that way. I believe every shooter who steps up to the firing line and shoots in a match is a winner. The only loosers are those who don't come out to the range to shoot the match.
Joe Haller
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Joe Haller
Guest
A couple of questions . .
Would you rather get a money payback, a trophy, a wood plaque, or see your match fees go into range improvements?
Would you be willing to pay a large entry fee for the chance of winning something worthwhile or pay a lower fee and expect nothing but a good time?
Would you rather get a money payback, a trophy, a wood plaque, or see your match fees go into range improvements?
Would you be willing to pay a large entry fee for the chance of winning something worthwhile or pay a lower fee and expect nothing but a good time?
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Houston Harry
Guest
Small payback - big reward
At our USBR matches held in Lufkin, TX we have a "cash can" for each class. It costs $2.00 per enter and is voluntary - winner of the class takes the kitty. I call this my hamburger money, becuase if I win it only amounts to enough cash to buy a milk shake and hambuger at the local Dairy Queen.
I drive 240 miles round trip from Houston every month for matches, shoot a couple of hundred rounds of Eley Match during the warm-up and competition, practice at my home range at least twice a week, and have made HUGE mistakes buying equipement that ultimately gets replaced with better equipment...the payoff is PRICELESS!!!!
At our USBR matches held in Lufkin, TX we have a "cash can" for each class. It costs $2.00 per enter and is voluntary - winner of the class takes the kitty. I call this my hamburger money, becuase if I win it only amounts to enough cash to buy a milk shake and hambuger at the local Dairy Queen.
I drive 240 miles round trip from Houston every month for matches, shoot a couple of hundred rounds of Eley Match during the warm-up and competition, practice at my home range at least twice a week, and have made HUGE mistakes buying equipement that ultimately gets replaced with better equipment...the payoff is PRICELESS!!!!
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cadillacjack
Guest
Hey Nipper
If you're in it for the money; you'd better start practicing golf,baseball,basketball or football. The most I heard of a shooter making last year was two million. He hit the lottery. Unfortunately, he spent it all on benchrest equipment, and barely broke even. Fred
If you're in it for the money; you'd better start practicing golf,baseball,basketball or football. The most I heard of a shooter making last year was two million. He hit the lottery. Unfortunately, he spent it all on benchrest equipment, and barely broke even. Fred
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nipper
Guest
i am not in it for the money, i am already out 2000.00 and and and.....
bill
bill
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Jinks
Guest
Just spreading the wealth.........
The one thing I've not read in this thread is the close friendship gained by sharing your money, an Obama thing. I'm not trying to be funny, but I've really met some great guys at the range I shoot at. I drive 6 hours round trip, half way across the great State of Ohio, have a great lunch, have a lot of laughs and trade a lot of lies. I don't regret one minute at this "once a month" gathering. I won "3 bucks" one time and forgot to get it. I gave it back to the host club. At "2 bucks" a gallon for gas plus entry fee I can easily drop "50 bucks" at a match, without betting a thing. Then there is equipment cost....Mercy. (Hope my wife doesn't read this)
Our home club holds a "money shoot” every Monday evening. We pay "1 buck" a target, payback 70%, 30 % to the club, and we've had to increase the number of benches to accommodate the regulars and many guests. Beside the 30% the club makes on the shoots, we sweep up all the empty brass and sell it. Last year we recovered enough to pay for a big club dinner. I'll bet if we reclaimed the brass around the shooting house area we could pay off all our debts.
So don't look to become rich at the organized matches, just isn't going to happen. Any ways, with that thought in mind, there are no bad feelings when it's all over only good memories, and the thought you'll in the money "2 bucks" next month, if you don't waste all the "killer ammo" practicing.
jinks
The one thing I've not read in this thread is the close friendship gained by sharing your money, an Obama thing. I'm not trying to be funny, but I've really met some great guys at the range I shoot at. I drive 6 hours round trip, half way across the great State of Ohio, have a great lunch, have a lot of laughs and trade a lot of lies. I don't regret one minute at this "once a month" gathering. I won "3 bucks" one time and forgot to get it. I gave it back to the host club. At "2 bucks" a gallon for gas plus entry fee I can easily drop "50 bucks" at a match, without betting a thing. Then there is equipment cost....Mercy. (Hope my wife doesn't read this)
Our home club holds a "money shoot” every Monday evening. We pay "1 buck" a target, payback 70%, 30 % to the club, and we've had to increase the number of benches to accommodate the regulars and many guests. Beside the 30% the club makes on the shoots, we sweep up all the empty brass and sell it. Last year we recovered enough to pay for a big club dinner. I'll bet if we reclaimed the brass around the shooting house area we could pay off all our debts.
So don't look to become rich at the organized matches, just isn't going to happen. Any ways, with that thought in mind, there are no bad feelings when it's all over only good memories, and the thought you'll in the money "2 bucks" next month, if you don't waste all the "killer ammo" practicing.
jinks