Time Precision, need opinions please

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Buzzsaw

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I'm in the process of putting together a benchrest .22lr. I've seen some good things about the Time Precision actions and rifles. I've also seen the Falcons, Stiller, Meyers, etc. Where does Time Precision fit in this famous group?

What are some of the things I need for this build? I want to do it right the first time...yes money is important. Triggers, barrels, stocks, tuners???
Thanks for your input
 
No ejectors and hard to load without a lot of practice. It's amazing to watch someone that is good at it reach in and flick the empty out and then hand feed a new round into the chamber...Gorham is a perfect example. Some feel the dual fireing pins as an advantage, at least for the experimenter but I don't think it has ever been proven. Parts and repair might be an issue.
 
There have been some great shooting Time actions, as a matter of fact one dominated the ARA Nationals for about 3 straight seasons. There are still some strong shooting ones out there today. Personally I would consider the Time a legacy action. If I had one laying around I might build it but would certainly not go out and seek one....mainly of the reasons Don stated above. Too many new easy loading actions with great ignition out there to choose from today that will shoot at least as good as the time.

Barrels, Triggers, Stocks....that is kind of like the Ford, Chevy, Chrysler racing thing. I have my personal opinions but it is just that.

Find a good rimfire gunsmith you trust and get his opinions.

Where you located? You might have someone close.

Good luck on your build.

Charlie
 
I would discuss those things with the gunsmith you are going to use to do the build. I think there are better options than the Time action. Give your smith your price range and using his experience with what he has had the most success with, let the two of you work it out. There are just so many options now, with most of them working quite well, and everyone will have their opinions and most will be right. Most smiths will have their preference as to what components they like to work with. I think picking your gunsmith is the most important decision you can make.
 
There's one other important issue since you mentioned money is important. I'm assuming that means down the road as well. You build up a Time and decide to ever sell it you're likely going to take a bath.
 
Chan shoots a Gorham steel Time ,and shoots as good as most ,won the ARA A-line and that is shooting with the best and being the most consistant, Don is right you got to have rythym to shoot one and they take practice to do it,never seen a killer aluminum Time,but Gorham has built several steel Times that will run with any of them, They are not in great demand because of the loading and the manuel ejection,so be careful,most of the older rifles are dated and will have to be rebarreled to compete and that is mo $
 
Thanks for the replies. I live in Frisco Texas near Dallas. I've been trying to learn as much as I can about this game. I do know it is very hard to win and very expensive getting there. I'd like to get one built for $2,000. I really like the Hall, Falcon (10-X), actions. Is it better to buy all the parts myself and then find a smith to put it all together?
 
If you are having it built, Bill B's advice is sound & valuable. Let the gunsmith help, and as much as possible, follow his advice. As you may know, his/her name will be on the equipment list for sanctioned matches, and in any case most want to help you, regardless.

Be aware there are two types or classes of RF gunsmiths, and prices vary accordingly. One group is actively involved in making the rifle shoot well. This costs more. The other simply uses their skill to properly fit the components, as with most all centerfire gunsmiths. This difference speaks more to insuring the quality and "working well" aspect of the components than to building skills. One is not "better" than the other; it is a different level of service.

I'm not putting this perfectly, partly to avoid naming names, partly out of an inability to write both clearly and quickly. I hope you get the idea.
 
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Buzzsaw said:
Thanks for the replies. I live in Frisco Texas near Dallas. I've been trying to learn as much as I can about this game. I do know it is very hard to win and very expensive getting there. I'd like to get one built for $2,000. I really like the Hall, Falcon (10-X), actions. Is it better to buy all the parts myself and then find a smith to put it all together?
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You are pretty close to us. If you want to drive over to Wylie, you are welcome to stop by and I can show you our actions and operaton.
 
Butch Lambert said:
Buzzsaw,
You would be a fool not to go by Stillers.
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I would second that. Even if, within your heart of hearts, you want something different (for emotional reasons), Stiller Precision seems to be one of the best values around today. Long-time BR Central poster Jackie Schmidt, who is a wonderful machinist, has reported that he's checked several Stiller CF actions, and they are extremely accurately made. The engineering too seems first rate.

For the little that it is worth (I'm not a machinist), I would have picked a Copperhead, or even the LoneStar (less expensive) except for two reasons: (1) I wanted the action by June 2011 and Stiller Precision was backed up, and (2) Leonard Baity is a friend of 16 years. I know his work too is first rate.

With where you live & Jerry's invitation, this is a wonderful opportunity.
 
I have an email into Jerry. I have been there once a few years ago, to talk about my long range centerfire rifle. Jerry was not there but I had a great visit with Chris (?). He showed me the shop and some actions being machined, with I think somebody's Dad honing some actions. I bought a Predator and will never regret it. Chris Mathews with Longshot rifles did the handi work. Jerry was just starting on his new building and at the time wasn't building complete rifles. Jerry, are you ready for me?

Curious, what will the wait time be on one of these monsters?

I will need a new GPS to find my way back out there!
 
I just purchased a used Time Precision rifle with a Rock Creek barrel, von Ahrens tuner, smithed by Eck in a very nice Shehane laminate stock . I was concerned when I read this post that I had made a bad purchase. Well, I shot the rifle for the first time today and I am very pleased with my purchase. Loading and ejecting was not any problem at all, even with cold and stiff fingers. Can't speak much about resale value but it is doubtful that I will sell it anyway.
 
cpeters you say
"Find a good rimfire gunsmith you trust and get his opinions"...is there a list or what to find a GOOD 22 smith ???? I have found several cobblers but none close GOOD.
 
Richard Gorham, Roger Brock & Gordon Eck are not cobblers , you might look at the equipment list of the ARA nationals and it will tell you the same info!
 
Curly said:
cpeters you say
"Find a good rimfire gunsmith you trust and get his opinions"...is there a list or what to find a GOOD 22 smith ???? I have found several cobblers but none close GOOD.
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What gunsmiths have you tried: Moe and Larry? Sorry couldn't resist.
 
you guys are a bunch of laughs no wonder you are intimadated by the thought of someone like Bill Calfee.!
 
You got your answer in #17 so I went for a chuckle (Nuk, nuk). Yeah, I am a wise guy.
 
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