Team USA Selection Process

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With the qualifying period quickly coming to a close, this presents a good time for this subject.

In order for Team USA to be as competitive as possible in both team and individual categories, we propose the following:

From the qualifying pool of shooters who have given a firm commitment to travel to South Carolina,

Scores 1, 2 and 3 will be squadded as Team USA "A" team.

Scores 4, 5 and 6 will be squadded as Team USA "B" team.

Scores 7, 8 and 9 will be squadded as Team USA "C" team.

Scores 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15 will be the Team USA alternates and paired with the teams on an individual case basis.

Team USA alternates will shoot for individual scores and as an emergency to another Team USA member.

No one will begin the selection process without a qualifying score.

Please make your intentions known as soon as possible since names must be submitted immediately after the qualifying period ends.
 
Yikes -sounds like Hi-school..takes me back in time..lol.
 
Steve,

Just one point for clarification purposes: will a shooters position be determined using the overall combined Aggregate Score for both HV-B and LV Classes, or by the position of finish in just the HV-B Class assuming that not all shooters will have had a chance to qualify in LV, and will be borrowing guns once at the Worlds?

My vote goes for using the combined total score for each shooter with whomever hasn't shot both being listed as an alternate. But, that's just my opinion, and what do I know?

Dave
 
Dave,

Since we will have teams in both LV and HV, it could be that some shooters might only qualify in one rifle class and not the other, therefore, would not have an aggregate score. In addition, qualifying in one rifle class does not automatically qualify the shooter in the other.

There is no problem with the borrowing/sharing of rifles but the qualifying score should be what starts the process.
 
12ft.lb.

can my LV ( 12ft.lb. ) scores qualify me in the HV ( under 20 ft.lb. ) class ??? Thank You Rick
 
Steve,

Sorry, but you know me! I can't just let things slide by.

As nice as it may be to allow as many qualifiers as possible to attend by keeping the teams separate between the LV and HV-B Classes, there is one huge problem.

If we do it that way, by having two separate teams for each of the two Classes, we will be essential eliminating any chance for us to bring home the Gold, the "Overall World Championship". Why I say this is because of the same reason we as individuals were encouraged to shoot in both Classes, so that we as individuals could be in contention for the Individual World Championship which is based on your Overall Combined Aggregate Score.

I can not name my source and will only say it was someone who would know, told me that when determining who should qualify we should take each shooters Overall Combined Aggregate Score for both Classes, then create our teams accordingly placing the highest 3 Combined Aggregate Scores together, then the next 3, and finally the next 3.

Makes perfect sense to me! That is if we are going to South Carolina to bring home the big pot of Gold?

Think about it,

Dave
 
Dave,

I do not believe we are going to end up with 30 different shooters in LV and HV. There will be shooters that will qualify in both rifle classes.

Your idea has merit, so how about this? At the end of qualifying, we will look at the scores and compare how the teams will line up using both methods. The goal is to have teams that will be competitive for all of the awards.
 
Steve,

I agree that we probably won't fill all the slots in both Classes. But, if we do not set our teams up properly using the same shooters and teams for both Classes, the only award we will disqualify ourselves for is the Big One, the Overall Team Championship!

If I may be so arrogant, I for one would hate to see the U.S. win the LV Class Team Championship and then turn around and win the HV-B Class Team Championship, only to turn around and watch as a different country walks away with the Overall Team Championship simply because we were too whatevertheword is to have set ourselves up properly to even have a chance. We will have just let it slip away to be given to any of the other countries who set up their teams up by placing the same shooters on the same teams for both Classes. Oh well?

Dave
 
Dave,
In reading thru the Rules there does not appear to be an Official Overall Champion in Airgun or Rimfire.
Possibly the Match Director could clarify this for you?
Doug
 
Doug,

A while back there was a message either posted here, or sent out by email encouraging us to qualify in both Classes, and then plan on shooting both at the Worlds because there was going to be some sort of award given out acknowledging the High Two-Class Individual Aggregate Champion, and the only way to win that award would be to shoot both Classes. I may be wrong, but if that is the case, it would only stand to reason that there would also be the same award for the High Two-Class Team Aggregate Champion, and it would only follow that whomever is that "Grand Combined Aggregate Champion", whether Individual or Team, would become the Overall World Champion? My concern is that if we make up our teams as described above rather than using the Combined Aggregate Qualifying Scores, we could ultimately end up have no 2 teams with the same shooters on them, and thus would not be eligible to win the Overall World Championship.

Again, I could be wrong here, but that is how the disciplines I know of crown their National Champions, especially when more than One Class and or Distance is being contested. For example, what it takes to become the 6-Gun National Champion in either IR 50/50 or RBA is to shoot all Six Classes over the two days of the event, kind of like what we will be doing down in S.C. this summer, only we'll be shooting just one distance, 25M, and two Classes, LV & HV-B.

I don't care how we do it. I just want to make absolutely certain that when the awards are being given out we as a country have not handicapped ourselves and are positioned to win the Overall World Championship if indeed there is one.

But, what do I know?

Dave
 
Indeed Dave is correct, this was the advice I gave.

There is only a overall award for individual aggregate champion, not team. This is just the way it evolved, due to the ability to change team line ups (even on the day of shooting). The main concern is to allow those shooting LV to Shoot HV as well, so they have a crack at the overall champion title. So the overall team for a country is best to remain the same from one class to another.

However, you will get G, S, B team medals for each match and the agg score will indicate the overall best team.
 
Qualifying ends on May 31. We should have our teams named shortly thereafter.
 
Ready and Able

Bill,

Lots of interest and excitement as we come down to the final weeks. It was a long winter for our northern shooters and conditions have not always cooperated where the white stuff is not as common. Tornadoes in our south, snow in Texas and California, flooding rivers where water does not belong, a tough winter/spring but our qualifying scores tell the real story, Team USA will be ready to compete. usairriflebenchrest.com
 
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