Suhl Variations/Trivia....

G

GDL264

Guest
Hello,
I'm sure by now everyone has heard of the Suhl 150 and Suhl 150-1 rifles but here are some other variations I've found...If anyone on this board has the "Super" e-mail me.... Gary

Feel free to correct any mistakes...I'm going off the top of my head on most of this info...Also feel free to add any more variations etc..

1: Suhl 150 "ST" - I "think" this may have been a sporter version as most I have seen had narrower stock forends.

2: Suhl 150 "Super" - Stamped on both side, someone e-mailed these pics to me a while back.

3: Suhl Haenel 900 Repeater - basically a clip fed Suhl 150, if you photoshop the pic and zoom in you can barely make out the installed clip.

4: Suhl Biathalon rifle - I've been told there are 2 variations. In this variation you cycle the action by rotating the pistol grip. Amazing design...

5: Suhl SSG-82 - Correct me if I'm wrong but this is a Centerfire clip fed sniper rifle that shoots the 5.45 X 39mm (220 Russian??) round. I was told this was the parent cartridge of the 22 and 6MM PPC??
 

Attachments

  • Suhl 150 ST Stamping.jpg
    Suhl 150 ST Stamping.jpg
    13.5 KB · Views: 975
  • Suhl 150 Super1.jpg
    Suhl 150 Super1.jpg
    31.7 KB · Views: 752
  • Suhl Haenel 900 Repeater.jpg
    Suhl Haenel 900 Repeater.jpg
    9.3 KB · Views: 1,075
  • SuhlV0500 Biathalon Rifle.jpg
    SuhlV0500 Biathalon Rifle.jpg
    12.7 KB · Views: 718
  • ssg82.jpg
    ssg82.jpg
    10.9 KB · Views: 1,965
Super Suhl

Hello,
I'm sure by now everyone has heard of the Suhl 150 and Suhl 150-1 rifles but here are some other variations I've found...If anyone on this board has the "Super" e-mail me.... Gary

Feel free to correct any mistakes...I'm going off the top of my head on most of this info...Also feel free to add any more variations etc..

1: Suhl 150 "ST" - I "think" this may have been a sporter version as most I have seen had narrower stock forends.

2: Suhl 150 "Super" - Stamped on both side, someone e-mailed these pics to me a while back.

3: Suhl Haenel 900 Repeater - basically a clip fed Suhl 150, if you photoshop the pic and zoom in you can barely make out the installed clip.

4: Suhl Biathalon rifle - I've been told there are 2 variations. In this variation you cycle the action by rotating the pistol grip. Amazing design...

5: Suhl SSG-82 - Correct me if I'm wrong but this is a Centerfire clip fed sniper rifle that shoots the 5.45 X 39mm (220 Russian??) round. I was told this was the parent cartridge of the 22 and 6MM PPC??

Gary, I sent you a PM, couldn't find your email address.
Gene
 
Gary, on the SSG-82..................

I was told those rifles were made by Steyr, not Suhl. There were a BUNCH of them sold around 5-6yrs ago, but no one had any dies, or bullets for loading, and there was only MilSurp ammo to be had. As for the round it fired, it was the AK round the Russians started using just before they got out of Afghanistan. That's all I've heard. I saw the rifles, handled a couple, but that's all.
 
ssg

I too was told they were built by Steyr,but...... The one I saw had what appeared to have a Steyr barrel only. The receiver & bolt though CF appeared identical to the rimfire, trigger and guard the same as the 150. Neither the receiver or barrel had any marking what-so-ever.
If I were guess I'd suggest the barrel only was Steyr.
The one I saw had dies & bullets with it.

bjm
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Ssg-82

I own one of these rifles that is documented (signed letter from him) to have been in the collection of Major Plaster (who wrote the Ultimate Sniper book).

It has NO identifying marks, names, etc on it other than a 4 digit serial number starting with a 0. The scope is a Carl Zeiss scope with the typical WWI type European cross hairs. The barrel appears to have been hammer forged as it has the swirled finish similar to a Ruger 10/22 Target barrel.

The trigger appears similar to a Suhl and this is probably where the Suhl factory got associated with the ID of the guns, but I believe they were actually made by Steyr. I believe Century Arms imported about 600 of these into the US and they were S.L.O.W sellers as the ammo was hard to get at the time. I remember seeing one at a local gun show years ago, even though I have a real soft spot for sniper rifles, and passed on it due to ammo scarcity at the time.

I have not shot it more than a time or two, but I hear that the military lacquered cases tend to sick in the chamber if you shoot it as the chamber heats up some. Mine shoots OK, but nothing to get excited about with Wolf ammo. I have heard of some shooters that were getting swaging dies to swage .224 cal bullets down to 5.45mm specs and getting pretty good results.

From a Russian website:

Caliber(s): 5.45x39mm
Operation: bolt action, manual repeater
Barrel: 585 mm
Weight: ? kg
Length: ? mm
Feed Mechanism: 5 rounds detachable box mag.

Not too much known about this quite rare rifle. It was manufactured in 1980s for East Germany Police and Airport Security units. It is based on small-bore match rifle, but chambered for somewhat odd (for the sniper use) cartridge, 5.45x39mm, which intended for use in AK-74 Kalashnikov assault rifles. The accuracy of the rifle is not too great, say, 2 or so MOA with good ammo, and even worse with standart miliotary issue ammo.

The SSG-82 featured rotating bolt action with 4 lugs that locks into the receiver. The barrel is cold hammer forged. Gun is fed from detachable box magazine that holds 5 rounds. Standart scope is Zeiss 4X fixed power. The stock is made from wood and is adjustable for lenght of pull with rubber inserts.

купить спальни в москве. рулонный газон


George
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Thanks for the info! I was just going by what I was told and I've never seen one up close.

Here's a close up of the action. The trigger guard IS the same one as the 150so there are definetely shared parts. The action and trigger look very similar but longer from the photos. Is the Styer factory in east or west Gemany? Is the action stamped with east or west markings? I've read from several sources these were east German.

Too bad they are so collectable/rare/expensive. It would have been fun to chamber one in 220 russian or 22 ppc for prairie dogs etc. Gary
 

Attachments

  • ssg82_1.jpg
    ssg82_1.jpg
    15.3 KB · Views: 442
Back
Top