Serious, non retorical stock question

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Boyd Allen

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I have a 10 1/2# 6PPC that has a Speedy Millennium stock that was manufactured by Lee Six, some time around '99 when the rifle was built, as a glue in by Jerry Stiller. In the last few months several experience shooters who have shot it a few times have told me that it seems to kick a lot. At first I thought that it must be the Sailkote teflon spray that I use on my cordura bags (a Del Bishop suggestion), but the most recent occurrence happened yesterday, when Lou sighted it in for me after a barrel change ( I was down to see him but did not want to set up and take space from competitors getting ready for the match. It took about 2 minutes.), with some loads that were lighter than normal, off of his Seb NEO rest and Gator rear bag. (BTW he won both 100 yard aggs , HV and Unl today). The lines of the stock are pretty conventional, and the butt plate only has a slight radius at the edges. It is made of quarter inch aluminum. I know that I can figure out something to take the edge off of the impact on shoulders when shooting free, but the question is why does if feel like it is hitting so hard? This was my first PPC and until I heard different, I thought that it was normal in this respect. It has clear stock tape that has been riding in teflon sprayed cordura.
 
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Boyd Allen said:
I have a 10 1/2# 6PPC that has a Speedy Millennium stock that was manufactured by Lee Six, some time around '99 when the rifle was built, as a glue in by Jerry Stiller. In the last few months several experience shooters who have shot it a few times have told me that it seems to kick a lot. At first I thought that it must be the Sailkote teflon spray that I use on my cordura bags (a Del Bishop suggestion), but the most recent occurrence happened yesterday, when Lou sighted it in for me after a barrel change ( I was down to see him but did not want to set up and take space from competitors getting ready for the match. It took about 2 minutes.), with some loads that were lighter than normal, off of his Seb NEO rest and Gator rear bag. (BTW he won both 100 yard aggs , HV and Unl today). The lines of the stock are pretty conventional, and the butt plate only has a slight radius at the edges. It is made of quarter inch aluminum. I know that I can figure out something to take the edge off of the impact on shoulders when shooting free, but the question is why does if feel like it is hitting so hard? This was my first PPC and until I heard different, I thought that it was normal in this respect. It has clear stock tape that has been riding in teflon sprayed cordura.
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would be that it is glued in barrel high so that it is coming STRAIGHT back at you. The current "flat" stocks can be very abusive, even with only PPC's, because the recoil is all straight back at your shoulder. No "roll down" because of butt drop.
 
Boyd,
I had a very similar experience with my rifle though in 30br. Not sure if it will help in your situation, but it had to do with the rifle balance for me. I moved my stock back in the bags so that only 1/2" was over the edge of the front rest and that settled the gun down very nicely.
Does the rifle appear to be 'jumping" during recoil? That's what mine was doing and it helped quite a bit...now that I think about you may have been one that responded to my post about it.
Mike
 
I have not noticed it jumping, but I will keep an eye out. In any case, I may try to get creative at the butt to lessen the felt impact. These stocks have their good points, but they have small butts that tend to concentrate the force of recoil. I may try to spread it out some.
 
Replace the aluminum butt plate with a recoil pad or cover the aluminum with some sorbothane. The sorbothane will need replaced after awhile.
 
On my metal stocked 30BR I use the thick self adhesive black weatherstripping from Home Depot. Frostking 1/2 or 5/8 iirc. This stock will bruise me up as a 6mm much less as a 30. The weatherstrip totally tames it. I was amazed at the different. I install a new piece at the range with setting up and tear it off at the end of the day.
 
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