Savage 111f W/Accutrigger copper fouled barrel questions

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p5200

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I bought this gun used it appeared to be in good shape with accutrigger and did have sights on it from what I can tell. I wiped down the light surface rust with oiled rag and decided to clean the bore real good. I used a patch worm but, the patches went through too easy seemed to me I took it today just to scope it in 30-06 it didn't seem to want to group as well as I expected. well I took it home and this time when I pulled patches through they were much tighter and made the normal squeaking noises as I pulled them through. is this a possible sign of heavy copper fouling? I used remington 40-x bore cleaner and also Hoppe's 9 I have a new 30 cal. bronze brush should I maybe scrub the barrel real good with that and the rem. bore cleaner? I thought about getting some of the foam type cleaner some have used. How can I tell if it has a lot of copper fouling? my eyes aren't what they used to be but, with my magnifier the crown looks really good. what's the odds of the barrel being shot out on an accutrigger model in this caliber? Thanks for any advice hade hoppes soaking while I typed this just pulled a patch through which came out real blue looking? Thanks! :(
 
P5200,

This is a benchrest gunsmith forum, so you probably won't get too many answers here. Sort of like asking a NASCAR mechanic about when to change the oil in the family sedan... I'll take pity and advise that you need to clean the barrel with an ammonia based copper remover until the patches don't come out blue. Bronze brushes, foam cleaners, JB paste, corking the bore, etc. will all help the situation. It is doubtful that a rusty modern 30-06 Savage is shot out. Without a bore scope you won't be able to see the location of copper fouling - just clean until the patches are not showing blue...
Scott
 
I agree with the guy above me too,,,,,,,,, also did you try more than one type ammo?? maybe it doesn't like what your trying to feed it, try different brand(federal, r-p, winchester, hornady etc ) and different bullet types and weights

the wind is my friend,,,,,,,,,,

DD
 
Two things about those Savage barrels, they're rough but they're accurate. Clean it well and shoot it. Forget about the copper fouling being a problem that it is not. Been down that road ;)

Cheers
 
No, the real reason not many people will respond is that it is the first day of rifle season in most states.....

I do agree this is THE most elite-ist gunsmith corner, of the gunsmith forums...for sure... and you will get more answers on Factory/hybrid section.

There are plenty of good people here, that will PM you with information on fundementals..... fearfully looking over their shoulder......while doing so...

Ben
 
Ok, here goes. Get yourself a one piece cleaning rod, either a coated one (Dewey) or one of polished steel (Pro Shot), and a jag sized for the caliber that you are cleaning. You can use the more common piercing style, or a Parker Hale style that is designed for the patch to be wrapped around it. Don't bother with a loop jag. Next you will need some cloth patches. If you happen to order these too big, you can always cut them down. After that, you will have a better idea of what to order. Get a cleaning rod guide to fit your action and caliber, and order the largest bottle of Butch's Bore Shine as well as a plastic bottle with a flip top to apply it with. Never dip anything into the solvent bottle. Buy your brushes by the dozen and throw them away When they get easy to push through the bore,or save them to clean the inside of case necks ( not too clean) if you reload. Always use bronze brushes with a brass core that has a looped end. Never use stainless brushes. By or build some sort of cleaning cradle to hold the rifle securely, without marking the stock, while you are cleaning the barrel. Remember to dry the chamber when you have finished cleaning the barrel. I use a strip of paper towel wrapped around the brush to a diameter that is slightly larger than the chamber. After that, dont forget to apply a THIN coat of grease to the rear surface of the locking lugs and to the cocking cam at the back of the bolt. Always take a look down the bore when you are finished for anything that might be in the bore, like a patch thread or anything else that you don't want there when you fire it. After you get all of this together, come back and ask about specifics of cleaning technique. If you don't care to get the right equipment, this probably isn't the right board to get answers. Good luck
 
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