Right Bolt - Left Port -- Like or Dislike?

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Phil3

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I am considering buying a Savage Long Range Precision Varminter in 223 to shoot off a bench, to develop skills at longer range shooting (paper targets). I was curious as to what thoughts are on the right bolt, left port arrangement. Do people like it or not? How is it in a prone position? Bench?

- Phil
 
Right Hand Bolt Left Hand Port

Phil3 said:
I am considering buying a Savage Long Range Precision Varminter in 223 to shoot off a bench, to develop skills at longer range shooting (paper targets). I was curious as to what thoughts are on the right bolt, left port arrangement. Do people like it or not? How is it in a prone position? Bench?

- Phil
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I have the same rifle, in the same calibre. The right hand bolt left hand port took me probably a couple of shots to get used to. It's great!! What twist rate are you considering?
 
I love mine from the bench, but hate it shooting prone.

I have to break position after each shot to load it.
 
I've got 2 of 12LRPV's, one in 223 Rem & one in 22-250, only shoot off the bench but love them, the 223 in factory club match's has a really good track record, shooting the 223 in factory varmint class will sure help your wind flag game,,,,,

the wind is my friend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

DD
 
steyrl said:
I have the same rifle, in the same calibre. The right hand bolt left hand port took me probably a couple of shots to get used to. It's great!! What twist rate are you considering?
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I found a used 223 LRPV in 1:9" twist. My local range is 100 and 200 yards, so that twist will be fine I would expect. However, I can drive further and shoot at 300 - 1000 yards. This gun can not be a stellar performer at all ranges, but figure the 1:9" can be good out to maybe 600 yards. If anything, it WILL teach me about wind, since I think perhaps 69 - 75 grain bullets will be about the most I could shoot out of it. The seller of the gun says his likes 55 grain Bergers, most definitely not a long range bullet.

I figure if I want to go longer range, I can install another barrel at a later date. Was thinking 6mmBR to see what it would do out to 600 yards. I know Savage makes the rifle in 6mmBR, but can not find one used, and thought I would save a few $$$ this way.

- Phil
 
Travelor said:
I love mine from the bench, but hate it shooting prone.

I have to break position after each shot to load it.
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Yes, I tried the prone position in the house handling another rifle, and I could see how that position would not work with the right bolt, left port. I did shoot off a bench with a bolt gun with a dual port, and did like loading from the left. The shells ejected to the right, which was nice, but don't see any real downsides to left ejection, other than there is less bench on that side and shells fall on the ground.

- Phil
 
Maybe there are a few people that still worry about sticking their face in front of no protection like happens with a right-hand shooter with a left port action. Me being one of the few.

After all everyone knows, that it is impossible to blow up a rifle action. It can't happen, right? For me it just isn't worth the extra conveniens. :D
 
Good point, but suppose that could happen with a dual port as well. I really don't know, but what would blowups to happen, beyond someone reloading a round incorrectly?

- Phil
 
Big Al said:
Maybe there are a few people that still worry about sticking their face in front of no protection like happens with a right-hand shooter with a left port action. Me being one of the few.

After all everyone knows, that it is impossible to blow up a rifle action. It can't happen, right? For me it just isn't worth the extra conveniens. :D
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Big Al, except for a LB/RP Panda I owned all my bolt guns are right handed and I'm left handed. If something blows, my head's on the same side as the ejection port. I've pierced and blown primers, and haven't had a problem due to the side the ejection port was on.

I haven't blown any guns up, but doubt that it'd matter which side the port was if it came all undone. Of course I've only been doing this for 50+ years, so maybe I've got a few more years to work in it. :D
 
Larry Elliott said:
Big Al, except for a LB/RP Panda I owned all my bolt guns are right handed and I'm left handed. If something blows, my head's on the same side as the ejection port. I've pierced and blown primers, and haven't had a problem due to the side the ejection port was on.

I haven't blown any guns up, but doubt that it'd matter which side the port was if it came all undone. Of course I've only been doing this for 50+ years, so maybe I've got a few more years to work in it. :D
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50+ years? New at it huh, kid? I have seen more than a few blows, some from mistakes, some from metal fatigue. None of them ever told the shooter that they were ready to let go at the shot. Why take the chance, does it really gain you and advantage that would have won you the match?
 
Nope, but it sure makes reloading faster when a wounded and enraged bull prairie dog charges. :eek:

If the whole action or bolt goes it sort of doesn't matter what side the shooter's face is on, it's likely to collect shrapnel.
 
Not to hijack this thread, but to carry the discussion a little further along the same lines -what to y'all think about a left port, right bolt LRPV v. a dual port LRPV - now that either is available? I was always told that the fewer holes in that receiver, the better. I bought one in LPRB .204 last year and have been very pleased with it. I am now in the market for the same gun in 6br.
 
I have several examples of catastrophic failures here in the shop. The worst is a Howa action that the receiver ring in 3 pieces now. Everyone has walked away relatively unhurt from all these accidents. I will never ever build myself another rifle where I will be looking down the bolt raceway at the back of a bomb. As long as the port is on opposite side, your face is in a safe zone. That's not theory, that's from 26 years of experience building rifles for the smart and not so smart people among us.

Dave
 
Dave Tooley said:
I have several examples of catastrophic failures here in the shop. The worst is a Howa action that the receiver ring in 3 pieces now. Everyone has walked away relatively unhurt from all these accidents. I will never ever build myself another rifle where I will be looking down the bolt raceway at the back of a bomb. As long as the port is on opposite side, your face is in a safe zone. That's not theory, that's from 26 years of experience building rifles for the smart and not so smart people among us.

Dave
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I agree 100%. I will never own a rifle that has a left port for just that reason.
 
75grn Projectiles

Phil3 said:
.since I think perhaps 69 - 75 grain bullets will be about the most I could shoot out of it.
- Phil
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Phil,
My LRPV 223Rem is a 1 in 7 twist. Yesterday (Sunday) I started to develope a load using 75grn Hornady A Max. Nosler case, Federal GM205m primers and 22.3grns ADI BM2. The best group (1st out of 2 shot) - 5 shots 0.499" with 4 shots 0.162". Shot at 100yds off the bench. The second group shot 5 into 0.554" (I think I got excited by the first group result).

I also started to develope a load using 80grn Sierra Matchkings but was only loading 3 shot groups. Lapua cases same primers as above, projectile seated to touch the lands, 21.5grn ADI AR2219. 3 shots 0.252". Same range as above. I will be loading the same for 5 shot groups.

Best Regards,

Bill
 
Phil
Get yourself a used 700 Remington action in a decent stock with a 0.473 boltface and then send me an e-mail.
Lynn aka Waterboy
 
LRPV 223 thread

I was about to start a new thread until I saw yours.
A shooting buddy of mine has a LRPV in 223 w. 1/7 twist and LP RB. It shoots extremely well w. Sierra 69 grainers. He likes the LP feature. I've just been eying a new Dual Port in 223 in 1/9 twist. Different look for sure. Most of my shooting is off the bench too at under 200yds. Hoping to see more discussion on these rifles on this thread. :)

S.
 
Read post #13. this is where the rubber meets the road. Sometimes theory is just that, your eyes may not be just a theory. Of course this for a short period f time is still America for a short time and you have ever right to vote with your dollars for what you want.:D

Heck you might even want to Google David Tooley name and see if he knows anything about the subject.
 
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True, good points made in that thread. You can't disregard his years of experience. I am for one going to forget about this whole concept and stay with the single right port actions. :)

S.
 
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