Question for all you rimfire shooters

DanB

DanB

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Do you find that your air rifle responds to barrel tuning in the same way as your rimfire?
Thanks,
Dan
 
Never tried Dan but it's a good question. Do the USA shooters put tuners on their air rifles?

The gear you guys have leaves our for dead, we shoot factory rilfes and there are no custom ones competing down here that i have seen as yet. Looking at Joe Fredricks set up of rifle and rest i think he will easily win best dressed at the World Champs :)
 
Dan
I've never compared the two but it will respond. I'm testing a proto-type Harrell at the present time and I'm having some luck with it. The wind has been blowing here for so long that I have to wait until late in the evening to test anything and then the peskie little blood sucking bugs get after me.
I have found out so far that it will close the group up and also move the point of impact. I have also found out that while most of the pellets that we shoot are good we are still at the mercy of the makes. I'm testing some new pellets right now along wiht some new lube.
If you want to talk to some one else about tuners contact Frank Tirrell at frank@franktirrell.com or1-903-734-3667. Frank lives and breathes benchrest air rifles. He also builds a mid barrel tuner that seem to work really well for him.

Good Luck
Larry B
 
Dan,

That is a good question. I did try one of those small Harrel's tuner for those skinny barrels but didn't give it enough time to evaluate. Since I'm using larger OD barrels, I can fit any tuner that I have from 2oz on up. Since we are all trying to get the most out of these rifles we can, trying one wouldn't hurt.

Regards,
Joe

PS,Bill, since I can't shoot, at least I''ll look good trying.
 
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This is interesting i didnt think there was enough kick and recoil in these air rifles to warrant a tuner but as Joe says it's worth a try.
 
Bill,

At the energy we are allowed to comply within the rules you are correct, there isn't any recoil but there are still vibrations going on, you can't see it but I can feel it through the trigger on my Theoben which I'm addressing. Turn the power up on these .22's you will notice some movement if one shoots completely free recoil. If your setup is not correct you may even notice some torque.

Regards,
Joe
 
Thanks for replies all. It is difficult to evaluate the results while shooting outside, the difference a tuner makes seems small. What I need is a tunnel.
Dan
 
Dan,

Every small amount you can get is a plus. I do use a tuner with bloop tube. Finding what works takes time. The barrel dampener has been removed but I'm also using rim-fire barrels, which in itself is different. A tunnel would be nice. I've been pondering about building a 50m tunnel for some time.

Regards,
Joe
 
If you don't mind me asking, what is the bore diameter of your barrel and twist rate? I would have thought that a rimfire barrel would be too large for airguns. My best barrel so far, several 250s, has a 1:16 twist and a bore of about .215".
Dan

Joe Friedrich said:
Dan,

Every small amount you can get is a plus. I do use a tuner with bloop tube. Finding what works takes time. The barrel dampener has been removed but I'm also using rim-fire barrels, which in itself is different. A tunnel would be nice. I've been pondering about building a 50m tunnel for some time.

Regards,
Joe
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Dan,

At muzzle .216, we thought the same. Hopefully other barrel manufactures will get involved. I have no clue if we are heading in the right direction, but I'm willing to take that risk. Maybe why the tuner and tube help. It's a 1:16.7 LD's barrels I will assume are in the .215 range.

Regards,
Joe
 
Dan Pick up Airgun World.Airstripper-tuner I think this is what You need. I'll bring My copy Sat. to Pinn. Mt......Franky
 
Not bein a rimfire shooter, I guess my eperience with tuners don't account fer much.
 
I too have one of Lynnwood's prototype tuners, but really didn't get working with it until this past month after being able to get back into my barn. Even though the barn isn't totally breeze tight, and is only 23+Y long, it has still shown a lot, enough so that I can tell you these tuners definitely have a positive affect on accuracy, but still need to be refined as they now resemble what we are using on our rimfires a little too closely.

In my opinion, what we need is an adjustable tuner like the ones we use on our rimfires combined with an Air Stripper system similar to the ones Franky referred to in this months issue of Airgun World, and in fact have already been in contact with Neil Price who builds the ones shown in the magazine.

In my minds eye I can see what I think will work best, but will have to sit down now with DanB, plus talk with both Carl Boswell and Neil Price, and a few others, before getting one to the point of being ready for the barrel. If what I feel will happen indeed does happen, then I think we are going to see airgun accuracy improve to a point where they become capable of stacking one shot right on top of the next, shot after shot, time and time again, rather than just having it only happen in our dreams.

I'll keep you posted as I go along.

Dave Shattuck
 
Dave,

There's no question a tuner, stipper of some kind will benefit heck even a mid- barrel. Now I don't know about stacking one holers outside time after time, but it's a great goal to arrive at.

Bill,

I don't know what others are doing, I will be using 2 rifles. Been lucky with the EV 2, it has been shooting great out of the box, how long will it last don't know, been busy getting the other rifle shooting the way I want it. Time is flying bye and wish there was more of it, it's been a good challenge so far and lots of fun, especially when you have things clicking right.

Regards,
Joe
 
Team AUS will also be bringing 2 EV2's as we are very happy with them, will shoot them in both classes as there is only so many rifles we can bring across and have to also bring our rimfires.

Wouldn't mind shooting your heavier custom gun on the Pappas rest in the AIR HV if it's available though Joe :)
 
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Prototypes

I am sure Lynwood would be interested in a air stripper version of his air rifle tuner prototype.
 
And Lynnwood may well see one as soon as it is put together. I'm not sure how much he's into Air Strippers though, so that may be a whole new concept for him to grasp. But, there's no doubt he understands the Tuner thing inside and out as his is the one that all other muzzle attached Tuners are based on, plus what he put together as a prototype for airguns sure does work well for what it is, it just needs a way to take the turbulence out from behind the pellet as it's leaving the bore ...and that's what I'm trying to figure the best way for him to combine the two without taking away from either one. I'll let you know when it happens, that is if I'm the one who gets there before you do. Doesn't matter though because airgunning will immediately take a huge step forward once it happens.

Man, do I wish I owned a lathe because with what I've got in my minds eye I feel that if I did own one, this would all be a mute point. Oh well!

Dave
 
Dave,

Hope your wife is doing better.

Draw a picture, put what is in your mind's eye on paper and send it to Lynwood. This is how progress is made.
 
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