Primer pocket uniformer/cleaner.

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BJS6

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I had been using an RCBS wire brush type tool to clean pockets, works well but is a little slow at a match. I have not been unifoming.

I bought a Sinclair uniformer and it is a very well made little tool, only problem is it doesn't do much of anything to Lapua 220 Russian pockets !! It takes a light cut in the radius on the outer edge at the bottom corner of the pocket and when cleaning the pcokets only touches that same area, a ring about 40 thou wide at the edge, if that. It doesn't cut deep enough to do anything useful to the pockets or to clean them, it isn't adjustable.

Who makes a similar tool that cuts a bit deeper than the Sinclair ?

Bryce
 
Send it back and get one from Robert W Hart & son. They have a carbide cutter model that is fully adjustable. They make a hand held model and one for a cordless screwdriver.
 
Bryce

how deep do you want to seat your primers?Will you ever face the base or your cases?how flat are the bases or your cases?
just a thought jim
 
Hart tool

Looking at the R W Hart catalog and what I have, their Primer Pocket Depth Reamer is what you need.
It has a carbide cutter and it is adjustable.
It can be used for primer pocket uniforming as well as carbon cleaning.
 
The Dewey Crocogator is the best tool I've found for cleaning primer pockets if I don't want to use a uniformer. A quick twist and they're all cleaned up.
 
do they

still make the spring loaded push thingy with the thread that turns on a thread as you push the handle (like whats called here a yanky screwdriver)
 
Bruce,
Not to worry. After each firing it will cut or clean a little more. After about the fifth or sixth firing the dimple in my 223 cases was gone. It should still the most of all the black carbon from the center area only leaving a dull brass look in the center.
 
anyrange said:
Bruce,
Not to worry. After each firing it will cut or clean a little more. After about the fifth or sixth firing the dimple in my 223 cases was gone. It should still the most of all the black carbon from the center area only leaving a dull brass look in the center.
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That's right! Just keep on keeping on and the tool will do as much for your scores as any other.
 
j mckinnie said:
still make the spring loaded push thingy with the thread that turns on a thread as you push the handle (like whats called here a yanky screwdriver)
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I have a couple of them. I was thinking they were made by Lyman. In a quick search I was unable to find one so maybe they have been discontinued.
James
 
Thanks for the comments guys but I think the "problem" is a bit worse than you may be picturing.

I really don't mind if it doesn't cut much in respect to uniforming the pockets, I doubt that they need it. I won't be facing off the case head and only need to clean the pockets properly with this thing, don't really want to cut the pockets deeper per se.

What I do want is for it to clean the pockets, at the moment it is missing 90% of the diameter not just a little in the middle, it is hardly cleaning anything, I might as well not even bother cleaning as use this tool. That 40 thou comment was probably not very accurate, thinking in metric and converting !! Whatever it is it is only a very narrow band at the corner.

Also I have a set of 15 brass that had been fired 5 times before a match and then did a 2 gun, they have been fired maybe 25 times, some more, some less. I tried the tool on them and even though I do use "upper window" loads the tool still doesn't clean any more of the pocket than it does on newly fireformed brass, at least not enough more to be any significance. My brass is never going to move around enough to work with this tool.

I did have a look at a few options after posting and I see that Kinnemans list one that is a "Lapua 220 Russian" uniformer and state that it cuts a few thou deeper than the normal small rifle model. I guess I'll look out for a good adjustable one or one that says it is for the Lapua Russian brass specifically, that or just find a better way to clean pockets fast.

Thanks again.

Bryce
 
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Thanks Jerry,

I had a look at their site at your recommendation. I was a little put off by the statement that it should not be used as a cleaner which is primarily all I want it for.

I did some searching, found the whitetail brand and tracked down them or a copy of it at Russ Haydons. He listed one specific to the Lapua brass so I figured with a fixed cut designed for the Lapua I should be fine.

I ordered the Haydon/Whitetail tool, good bad or otherwise. Like a lot of this stuff when you are on the other side of the world and not handy to other shooters that have the gear it is often a case of do some homework, place an order and hope for the best. If it is like the Sinclair tool but just a smidge deeper I will be well pleased.

Thanks for the help, appreciated. I downloaded that PDF and will have a look, never know what else I might "need" !!

Bryce
 
BJS6 said:
Thanks Jerry,

I had a look at their site at your recommendation. I was a little put off by the statement that it should not be used as a cleaner which is primarily all I want it for.


Thanks for the help, appreciated. I downloaded that PDF and will have a look, never know what else I might "need" !!

Bryce
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Bryce, I don't know why Wally has that statement about not using it to just clean pockets with unless that if it were set too long you would continue to take the pocket deeper each cleaning. I have used mine for years and on the same brass for 15 or so cleanings. I'll call Wally tomorrow and find out and let you know.

I'm glad you found another type. I think I've seen the Whitetail cleaner. (Maybe at Dan Kinnemans tent at the Super Shoot??) Anyhow, Russ and Marsha are good folks to do business with.
 
BJS6 said:
I did some searching, found the whitetail brand and tracked down them or a copy of it at Russ Haydons. He listed one specific to the Lapua brass
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You will like it. I have a regular one and a special Lapua whitetail tool I have been using for maybe 20 years. The Lapua model cuts just a tiny bit deeper.

Dick
 
Thanks Jerry,

Yes good folks indeed. I have dealt with them once before and they were very good, this time I had an email from Marsha within about 15 minutes of ordering on line saying that it would be sent out tomorrow, can't ask for more than that.

Bryce
 
Missed your reply there Dick, thanks, sounds like I should have just what I need in the whitetail tool.

Cheers.
 
Quick and easy to use also, just a quart or half turn of the tool between thumb and forefinger and your pocket will be clean. And as Wilbur has alluded tool it is debateable if it has any effect anyhow. Still it makes me feel better when I do it.

Dick
 
Thanks Dick,

Yeah I have doubts it matters, but like you said, it makes me feel good.

When time is short pocket cleaning gets the shove !!

Bryce
 
JerrySharrett said:
Bryce, I don't know why Wally has that statement about not using it to just clean pockets with unless that if it were set too long you would continue to take the pocket deeper each cleaning. I have used mine for years and on the same brass for 15 or so cleanings. I'll call Wally tomorrow and find out and let you know.

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Just talked to the Harts. The reason they put that caution in the catalog is that some people have set the cutter too long, then every time they clean pockets with it they cut some more brass.

I set mine to 0.005" deeper than the current lot of GM205 primers. Then I use it initially to uniform pockets that each time after that it just cuts the carbon.
 
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