Possible Scam

HFV

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I don't know if this is the proper thing to do, and if the moderators want to remove , it's their choice.

BEWARE OF POSTINGS ON CLASSIFIEDS: (FROM POSSIBLE SCAMMERS)
NAME: ALAN WILLIAMS
E-MAIL: williams.alan46@yahoo.com
PHONE: 210-590-8988

I'm not out to damage anyone's name or reputation. I recently thought I was making a valid purchase on the classifieds. The items were 2 rifles scopes @ reasonably good price. I sent 2ea postal money orders, as I have many times on various classifieds, BRC, e-bay etc. I have not rec'd the items, can not get any response by e-mail or provided phone no. It has now been 15 days w/no contact from poster. I hope what I'm thinking is not true, but seems to have that flavor. If I'm wrong, I will apologize. I'm just trying to make people aware, and help stop this kind of thing in the future.
I have bought and sold many items on BRC , never a problem. I know Wilbur has no way to filter the crooks from the site. Wilbur please delete if this post causes any problems or potential problems.
HFV
 
HFV,

Your first course of action is a Postal Money Order Inquiry, best done where you bought it but can be initiated at any P. O. If it has been cashed, they can tell you who cashed it. If not, 60 days will get you a refund. This smells like mail fraud, a very big deal. Might also be interstate wire fraud and warrant the involvement of the FBI. The Postal Inspection Service is the oldest law enforcement agency in the US and they don't brush this kind of stuff off. Keep us posted.

Greg
 
Posting the same text on multiple forums on this website is wasting space.

Reverse look up of the phone number you list gives this information:

2 Results

Aaker Electical Supply Co Inc

1. address unavailable
2. San Antonio, TX

Control Distribution Products

1. address unavailable
2. Randolph, TX


I am surprised people still send money to strangers without first talking to the person and confirming their address. No guarantee the outcome will be any better but at least you would have something more to go on.

Most warnings on forums about viruses/scams. etc. are just a waste of space.
 
scam

Posting the same text on multiple forums on this website is wasting space.

Reverse look up of the phone number you list gives this information:

2 Results

Aaker Electical Supply Co Inc

1. address unavailable
2. San Antonio, TX

Control Distribution Products

1. address unavailable
2. Randolph, TX


I am surprised people still send money to strangers without first talking to the person and confirming their address. No guarantee the outcome will be any better but at least you would have something more to go on.

Most warnings on forums about viruses/scams. etc. are just a waste of space.

The only reason I posted was maybe to save someone else from doing the same
 
That property appears to be a moble home
the address is listed as below.
SUMPTER, MARGARAT D 20380 CAMPBELLTON RD, SAN ANTONIO, TX 78264 210-626-1855

That data MAY NOT be current.

I recomend you make an official complaint as recomended by Glenn and the others.
 
Scammers

I have been hit by scammers on a different gun forum before. I don't trust anyone that doesn't have a record demonstrated with a strong post history anymore. Thankful I just lost a $100 for some brass. The Accurate Shooter Bulletin list what may be our best friend - GunPal. (http://www.accurateshooter.com/bulletin.html) Appears to work just like PayPal and will let you use a CC for purchases. Transfer funds to and from your acct. GunPal would provide you some protection. I will certainly look in to it in the future. With major pruchases that don't come from a known company, I will probably limit to a face-to-face sealed off with a firm hand-shake.....

All I can say is that it will get worst. We have had someone get our credit card info twice in the past 3 years and sell it our. We had to cut up all the cards and start again two times. Both times some little prick in a major company that had access to our CC and credit info sold our information. Charges just start appearing 6-9 months later. Really pisses me off. Thankfully that CC companies don't hold you responsible. Just watch your CC statements closely.

Tim
 
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Scam

That property appears to be a moble home
the address is listed as below.
SUMPTER, MARGARAT D 20380 CAMPBELLTON RD, SAN ANTONIO, TX 78264 210-626-1855

That data MAY NOT be current.

I recomend you make an official complaint as recomended by Glenn and the others.

I have spoken to a lady @this phone #, saying the guy no longere lives there, but does pick up mail @ this address. She also stated he lives w/a girlfriend, but did not give me the name or phone # of said person.
 
Had the same problem one here with a seller.Bought a rifle which I received after a runn around for 3 weeks then about a month later he emailed me stating that he found his harrells powder measure an would sell it to me for 150 dollars.So low an behold I sent him the money order he got it cashed it an took the money an runn.Called him a number of times an always had a excuse for why he hadnt sent like he lost his job,lost his wife an so forth an so on.So if anybody ever sees Kasey Montgomery tell him that im still waiting.This all took place back this summer,but being the nice guy that I am I gave him benefit of the dout an Im still with out a measure.
 
Probably no use to you but here is an overhead view of the address. Address marked by the red "stickpin" A.

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HFV,

If the postal money orders have been cashed, I believe you have enough info. Give the local police a call and have them go talk to the lady at this address. I bet she will give them the name and address of this girlfriend. Problem will be solved pretty quickly.

Hovis
 
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