Plastic Stock Bedding?

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Gentlemen: have a problem getting the bedding compound to stick to the Tikka plastic stock. I have used the Devcon Bedding compound and the JB weld but both refuse to stick, (now what)

Clarence
 
im certainly not the expert with plastic stocks, but i would try scoring/roughening/undercutting the plastic stock so the epoxy has something to grab on to.
 
I also dont know for sure if this will work but it has worked on other plastic items for me.
Try acetone on the area to be epoxied. IF it does work it would also mar the stock anywhere else it touches so be careful.
It should/maybe melt the plastic a little and cause it to have a completely rough surface.You could remove the butt plate and try it there.
 
If standard epoxies don't adhere to the stock material, I would be concerned that any bedding that you achieve if you key the stock would not be to an acceptable standard of consistency for good rifle performance.
 
is the stock stiff enough for the rifle to benefit from bedding ?

dimple the bedding area with a drill bit,,,deep enough to put some "legs" on the bedding....

mike in co
 
mike in co said:
is the stock stiff enough for the rifle to benefit from bedding ?

dimple the bedding area with a drill bit,,,deep enough to put some "legs" on the bedding....

mike in co
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I do as Mike suggests. I have never found anything that will actually stick to these types of stocks. I take a drill bit and drill multiple holes at an angle to the bedding surface to mechanically lock the epoxy to the stock. I push the epoxy into the holes with the bare end of a wood sticked cotton swab. A toothpick or anything like it would work fine. I also shim the action up a bit so I have a slightly thicker base of bedding rather than thin layer to minimize potential chipping at the edges when removing the action. I also only bed the front ring area and tang area. I have done many of these (Winchester's and Remington's) for friends and as far as I know none of them have failed and most responded to the effort. With one bad offender it turned a worthless rifle into a keeper and it made the owner/friend very happy. Well over ten years have passed and it still shoots like it did after we first worked on it.
 
Thanks Gentlemen:
I'll try the whipstock drilling to hold the bedding compound and if it does not work i'll put a wood stock on it. Problem is the plastic stock is appreciated when one is carrying it for extended Preditor stands. However as John says I may be pissen in the wind. Thanks Guys
Clarence
 
OK, my experience mirrors the others, epoxy doesn't stick to these plastic stocks.

Now IF I could have found a primer which would 'bridge the gap' by biting plastic on one side, epox on the other, then I would say proceed. I have not found this primer.

Therefore IMO it's better to replace the stock than fool yourself into thinking a floating octopus of epoxy rattling around in a weakened plastic handle is 'good.'

:)

al
 
Floating octopus of epoxy

alinwa said:
Therefore IMO it's better to replace the stock than fool yourself into thinking a floating octopus of epoxy rattling around in a weakened plastic handle is 'good.'

:)

al
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Al,
I always get a chuckle out of your phrases. 'A floating octopus of epoxy' is a good visual of what you are describing. Keep them coming as I always get a kick out of your verse.

Chino69
 
While not ideal this method does not result in bedding rattling around like Al says nor does it appreciably weaken the stock. The holes as described do not need to be very deep. For a cheap lightweight carry rifle bedding as described can be beneficial with very little time and money invested. Keep in mind what Forum this question was asked and the quality of rifle that wears this type of stock.
 
Try sandblasting the bedding areas with the black grit used in out door ash trays.

After wipping the area down with mek first .

Try a small amount of mek first on a hidden spot ......

Robertson Composites might have a bedding epoxy which will work.

http://robertsoncomposites.com/


Glenn:D
 
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WSnyder said:
While not ideal this method does not result in bedding rattling around like Al says nor does it appreciably weaken the stock. The holes as described do not need to be very deep. For a cheap lightweight carry rifle bedding as described can be beneficial with very little time and money invested. Keep in mind what Forum this question was asked and the quality of rifle that wears this type of stock.
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Keep in mind that we're all in the same boat here :) I don't know anyone who enjoys throwing away components of any sort. BUT, it is my opinion that one is better served by replacing or even trading off the plastic stock for a wood one for zero money exchange. I've done this twice, both of us "got a deal."

:)

al
 
i recently shortened a stock on a savage edje for a friends son, and in the process had to remove the little clip that holds the recoil pad in place. my first atempt to glue it in place with bedding epoxy didn't work. how ever beeing a plumber by trade i went to what i knew. after sanding both parts i used the clear PVC primer to soften the surface then applied the epoxy before the plastic had a chance to reharden. of course i tried the combo on the peice of stock i had removed before trying the real deal. I dont know if it will help in your case, if the stock material is the same, or if the primer will agree with your epoxy, but its food for thought.
 
I rough up the area with a dremial tool then bed with Marine Tex, never had a problem with it not sticking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

the wind is my friend,,,,,,,,,,,

DD
 
I've used the drill a whole bunch of holes (~3/16" holes x 3/16" deep) in plastic stocks and haven't noticed any movement or looseness in the bedding material. If the stock is a flexi-flyer like a lot of these moulded plastic stocks are it could be a bear.
 
Thanks Gentlemen: again I think the Pissing in the Wind is accurate and will just replace the stock. I just shure hated to add weight. This is a Tikka Light in 22-250.
Clarence
 
well if you realy want to stay light a call to McMillan would certainly get you a light and stiff stock, but its not going to come cheap. They are worth every penny though.
 
Napa auto parts stores carry a two part epoxy in a syringe designed specifically for bonding to plastics.
As I recall there was one type of plastic it was not recommended for. Not sure what that is.
If you really want to bed that stock I would start there.

I bought a tube to bed a cheapo plastic stock. Never got around to it and used it instead as filler in a mag hole of a LR stock.
Bonded real well to that and some ole 7mm hunting tips=)
 
jo191145 said:
Bonded real well to that and some ole 7mm hunting tips=)
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so how does one bond well to a hunting tip.....as in take it to heart ??
don't smoke when hunting ?
don't wear cologne ?
i have heard of hunting tRips being bonding experiences for father and son( or daughter)....
where is dr tim when we need him ??
mike in co
( i know of the sierra BULLET company, hornady BULLETS, berger BULLETS, etc....
dont know any tip companies)
 
mike in co said:
so how does one bond well to a hunting tip.....as in take it to heart ??
don't smoke when hunting ?
don't wear cologne ?
i have heard of hunting tRips being bonding experiences for father and son( or daughter)....
where is dr tim when we need him ??
mike in co
( i know of the sierra BULLET company, hornady BULLETS, berger BULLETS, etc....
dont know any tip companies)
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And some folks down under call them projy's.
Anything of significance to add or just excercising your attitude?
 
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