Ray and Bob hill Brought back the Wick single vain wind flag and let me tell you guys something they are great they work as good as they look the craftsmanship is second to none he threads the end of the brass rod so you can take the whirly gig off for easy travel the stand are very sturdy but light and one of the best things they back everything they make I have a set of all of his flags, for any kind of wind condition or destination yall got to get a set before he figures out he is to cheap your ARA friend Joe Chacon