New Gun Question

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LesWard

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I have just bought a new to me Stolle Teddy off these classified ads.
It has 3 barrels 284 and 6 Dasher . + a Dasher fire forming barrel
I would like to know the chamber specs for the Dasher i.e. neck dia. etc. so I can start
preping cases. Owner did not know neck dia. It was smithed by Mike Bryant which was a strong point in my decision making.
I just hope I can do this rifle justice as this is my first real custom.

Another question , can a smith chamber up a barrel based on his previous work without having the action in hand? Shipping is a " killer " here in Hawaii.

Hope I am in the right forum. And not intruding, thanks.

Aloha, Les
 
Your best bet is to PM Mike here on the forum, or get contact info for him, and ask him if he knows the spec of the reamer used on the rifle. If he has multiple reamers and they are different, he's probably not going to know what dia the neck is.

The second question is another one best answered by Mike. I think that is a difficult proposition there. If it were me, the answer would be no.
 
Safest way is to order some CerroSafe from Brownell's and make a chamber cast. You must have barrel changing equipment so this will easily be within your abilities as CerroSafe melts at very low temp.

Another way is to make up a dummy round and see if it chambers. If it chambers with no resistance it's safe to fire. Pay attention! If the neck goes in easy then you've got radial clearance..... but if it stops a little short you may have LENGTH issues. If it stops short then you must trim the neck back and try again, if it now chambers easily you've established that it's a short neck. Once you can fire a few cases it's easy to measure them and figure out the neck diameter. Now you can cut a neck off short and use one of Sinclair's chamber length gauges to find out EXACTLY whare the neck ends for safe trim-to length.

Another way is just to make up a SHORT necked case and turn it clear down to say .260 over the bullet.... make SURE it's got clearance. Now fire it and measure it up. Generally speaking a neck will spring back about a thou so if the fired neck measures .267 then you've got a (close to) .268 neck. If it comes out with a .271 neck then you've got a "no-turn" or .272 neck.

I would expect that Mike could easily make barrels over the phone and if he's kept his records that far back he should have the build sheet for your gun. If he does he can probably make duplicate barrels for a Teddy. That said, if I were Mike I might want you to send a signed waiver eliminating him from liability........

I know that I myself could chamber up a barrel for anyone anywhere for a new Stolle, or for say a Stiller or a Borden Alpine that would be safe to fire. Stiller's actually come with a diagram that allows one to hit the required parameters without ever seeing the action. And if you sent me some fired cases I could even hit your headspace. The necessary tolerances required for safety, within a thou or two, are HUGE in machinist terms. The only liabilities incurred would be from a lack of understanding or experience on the customer end. Or from a screwup. A mistake at the 'smith's end can happen.....

Because of this, most gunsmith's opt to only offer mail-order barrels after they've built and documented one barrel with the action in hand. IF they offer the sevice at all.

Check with Mike.

al
 
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