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Tod Soeby

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This summer I was talking to a fellow shooter. I told him that I had just spent the better part of a day trimming, neck turning, sorting, doing the primer pockets, ect..... Had them all loaded and ready for the weekend match. He advised against firerforming brass at a match. I told him I was shooting a standard 300 WBY, not an improved or a wildcat. He still said no, not at a match.

Do any of you guys who shoot a non-wildcat, non-improved cartridge ( 300 win, 300wsm, 6.5-284, 6.5-47L...ect) shoot new brass at a match? I, for the life of me can't see why not. I can't imagin shooting a couple hundred rounds worth of bullets, powder, primers, BBL life, especialy on a BBL burner, just so I can avoid shooting new brass at a match.

Thanks,
Tod
 
Simple answer...

.... Yes. I have shot many a round fire forming at a match and won relays, shootoffs, and aggs in state matches.

JP Lucas held. the HG group record at Ohio while fireforming 300 WSM cases. I believe that one now belongs to Eris Springman. He shot a nice
4.0XX" group at the nationals a month ago.

If you shoot fireforming brass at a match, there might be a difference in velocity, but that depends on the varibles that you and only you will have to know.

Danny
 
Fireforming

Some of my best groups have come from fireforming brass. Won a relay or 2 at Hawk's Ridge doing it. I shoot a 6.5 Shehane which does improve the case slightly though.

Guess the best thing to do would be take fireform loads and fired re-loads to the range and see if there is a significant difference.


Rob
 
Neck tension

I shoot a 6.5 x 284 and I see less neck tension on new brass than on fired brass. This does translate to different velocities for me. The new brass will shoot very good groups; but the load will be different in the fired brass to stay in the same velocity range.
Annealing the brass every firing might keep the tension closer to the new brass tension.

Joe
 
I know that annealing the necks is a whole new can of worms, which of course, I am going to have to open up soon. I had two great groups ruined at Pella last week by one or two flyers. A 3" nine shot group with one 8" out at 1 o,clock, and another 3-4" 8 shot with a flyer at 2" and another at 6", both at 12 oclock. It was the fifth firing on this brass, and I haven't taken the next step in this whole process and learn to anneal necks. The few people I have asked about this said it could most definitly be caused by the necks getting work hardend. I felt that both groups went good on my part, but usualy that don't mean CRAP (uless it ends up to be a screamer, and of course that makes you feel like the smartest man on earth;)). I am in the process of researching the whole thing, and won't waste your time asking about it.........YET.:eek:

As far as shooting new brass for record.....I think I agree with you all. I expand the necks to make neck turning simpler, and then use the bushing die to bring them back to where I need them.....they should all be the same. And, from what I have gathered the last year or so, neck tension is the THREE most important things in shooting small groups at 1K, along with the other TWO, seating depth and seating depth.:D

Thanks,
TOD
 
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