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Larry in VA

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I have a couple of stocks that I need to drill out the existing aluminum pillars and one I need to open the barrel channel a bit more.
(1) What kind of vice could I use on my drill press that would hold a stock secure enough and in the correct position to drill out the pillars?
(2) Also would really like a vice (or two) that I could attach to my loading bench temporarily for bedding a rifle and maybe some hogging out a barrel channel.
Any Ideas? :confused:

TIA, Larry
 
I bought a cheap Taiwanese compound slide years ago to use with my drill press. It took quite a bit of work to get the slop out of it so it was generally useful for that type of work. It has enough travel so I can pretty precisely mill out action cutouts in wood & glass stocks. Maybe you could dig up something used along lines, new or used.

I cut soft wood fillers to accommodate the peculiarities of individual stocks.

As far as work on my loading bench is concerned, I found an inexpensive cast alloy sort of clone of an engineer's vise with rubber soft jaws & a half nut with spring loaded plunger on the screw at the local hardware. It is just great for holding a rifle or stock to fiddle with. If it needs elevating a tad, my MTM caseguard 100 ammo boxes are the perfect temporary block for the job.
 
Thanks for the reply John, guess I’ll just have to nose around the hard ware sites and see if I can figure out what might work.
Thanks again, Larry
 
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Larry,

I bought a "Bisley Gun Vise" a couple of years ago and couldn't be happier. I am forever using it for something gun related. Last night, it was used to bed a rifle. I've used it a zillion times to hold some small gun part, so I could work on it. They are small, light, adjustable, and extremely portable. They are not a massive, heavy duty vise, though...I have a regular old bench vise for that. I love mine.

The downside? Their not cheap...something like $280. But it is something you will have for a lifetime. If mine disappeared suddenly, I would buy another one. Check it out...

http://www.bisleyvise.com/

Justin
 
Justin, that does look like a very nice tool to have around the work bench. I will have to save my nickles and dimes for that one, but it is definitly going on my gotta have list. Thanks
Larry
 
fwiw,
The Bisley Vise is very handy for a field expedient surface, however, I do not consider it truly a bench vise. I love mine, however, it has to be limited to thin bench tops, my 3.8" Oak Butch Block Bench, was a NO GO. Add to that it sticks out considerably from the bench due to the design. That said it wreaks of German Quality and Marcus Menig and Golmatic are FIRST CLASS folks to deal with in my book. I remember complaining about the limited clamp capacity and Marcus sent me a 12"x12"x1.5" CNC machined Aluminum block that was predrilled to work with my Thompson Tool Mounts on the bench. It sticks the vise out further still, however, I can only thank they whole crew for their effort...

FWIW I use a Wilton 3.5" Machinist Vise with custom jaw inserts lined with leather for most tasks. That said if the Euro comes back down I am convinced that Brockhaus HEUER makes the best forged vise and mount on the market. Unfortunately they are extremely expensive and the only US Rep is Samstag Sales. Samstag would have had my business, however, the price changed $260 on a $1200 vise order( 4" w/swivel and hideaway hydraulic ram). I bought the Wilton and stayed with US Castings... That said HEUER is a handier vise. Look at US Patent Firearms Lista Benches and Heuer Vises...fwiw & imho.

Regards, Matt Garrett
757-581-6270
 
Rustystud said:
Grizzly sells a Knock off of the Bisley and it is less expensive.

Rustystud
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Got a Grizzly Cat on order and I have been all thruogh their website looking for the Bisley knockoff with out any success. If you got a line on where I could order it from Grizzly I would appriciate it. :confused:
TIA, Larry
 
An old time stock maker that I know, uses a large bench vise with two plywood pieces that cover the jaws and run down either side of the rectangular section that covers the tightenng screw. Glued to the inside faces of the plywood pieces is a single piece of industrial felt, around a half inch thick, that forms a U shape just above the screw cover. The butt of the stock is usually grasped in this while the forend rests on a riser block that is bolted to the bench ( hole through bench, nut fixed beneath) at its inner end, with the outer end reaching over the edge of the bench and its top covered with the same felt. The vise is a swiveling variety, and the distance between it and the riser block/forend support are such that the forend is supported near its middle. With the riser unbolted, and the jaw pad removed there is just a vise bolted to a bench and a small hole in the bench top that could be plugged with a threaded piece.

As far as drilling out pillars goes, a piloted drill or end mill would keep things from wandering off center. I would probably drill from the bottom of the stock.
 
removing pillars

I thread the pillar, insert bolt, heat bolt with a propane torch to melt epoxy bedding that holds pillar, pull pillar. RANDY
 
woodworking vise

Larry in VA said:
I have a couple of stocks that I need to drill out the existing aluminum pillars and one I need to open the barrel channel a bit more.
(1) What kind of vice could I use on my drill press that would hold a stock secure enough and in the correct position to drill out the pillars?
(2) Also would really like a vice (or two) that I could attach to my loading bench temporarily for bedding a rifle and maybe some hogging out a barrel channel.
Any Ideas? :confused:

TIA, Larry
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No help on the drill press, but a woodworking vise distributes the force over a wide area of a BR forestock (http://www.veritastools.com/Products/Page.aspx?p=131). Or if you want a swivel feature, look for a used Emmert patternmakers vise (http://www.mprime.com/Emmert/index.htm). These aren't temporary installations, so probably aren't what you are looking for, but might give you some ideas???

Cheers,
Keith
 
Thanks for everyones responces...

Keith:
You are correct either of those vise’s are a little to permanent for my crowded reloading area. However thanks for posting both of those web sites, they are extremely interesting and I will be perusing them more very soon. I really liked that Iron Hand too. :cool:

Since I started this thread I have ended up with a couple of vices. One is a (cheap) knock off of another very, very expensive Euro vise that seems to fit what I need at least 70% of the time. It’s called a Shop Fox and is sold by Midway (and others) along with the optional “tilting vise jaws” seems to work OK. Vise is a bit rough though and lock screw seems to lacking in function. :mad: And the other is a long double ended affair that I will have to build a couple a tables to mount it on. It should work well for holding stock secure while hogging our barrel channels.
Regards, Larry
 
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