My first impressions of a Burris 8x32 Black Diamond VS a Bushnell Elite 6x24.

VaniB

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I suppose some of you guys have noticed me asking questions about the Burris Black Diamond 8x-32x FinePlex 50mm Scope here recently on the boards.....especially about how the Ballistic Dot or Fine plex reticle would work for target and PD shooting. Well, I finally opened the box of my new Burris and put that $700 side-focus 8x-32x FP Burris scope on a camera tripod next to my $499 Bushnell 1" Elite side-focus 6x-24x Mil-dot.

I made a special wood base for my camera tripod to hold the two scopes close to each other and have the same adjustments and be able to view through the both of them quickly in order to make careful comparisons. I pointed the two scopes at a target of 1" circles and a 7 1/2" tall PD silouette 410 yards away. I spent about 45 minutes comparing magnification settings and parellex settings of the two scopes. To make things fair and compare apples with apples, I set both the scope's magnifications at 24X when viewing the target 410 yards away. The clearity of the 32X magnification and the FP reticle is very good for 100-200 yard target shooting (that I do intend to use it for)....but isn't so hot at 410 yards anyway.....so I didn't care much to check it at that distance with the 32x magnification, and tested it only at 24x.

The day was very overcast with periodic rain drops, and it was easy to tell that the Bushnell constantly had the edge in image sharpness (very slight) and better light gathering quality. However, the difference in light gathering was not enough that I am unhappy with my Burris purchase. I'd bet that the difference really only shows up readily during these kind of controlled conditions and a dark rainy day like this. (or, dusk/dawn) Had I NOT put the two scopes side by side, I'd probably be hard pressed to know the difference.

The eye relief was not as critical with the Burris as it is with the Elite. If you don't hold your eye just the right distance from the Elite lens, the image is blacked out.
I don't know how the Burris will hold a zero, because it's not mounted in a rifle yet, but I can say that the clicks are defined. The SF knob turns a little hard, but works good.
The fine plex area of the reticle seems to cover about one dog in length at 410 yards. The center crosshair of my Elite Mil-dot reticle is about the same size as the thicker section of the posts of the Burris FP reticle, and quite fine enough for dog hunting. The size of the Elite mil-dots just cover the PD dog's head perfectly, and are only slightly larger then the 1" dots I drew on the targets (at 410 yards)

I own 2 Elite SF scopes. My other Elite Scope on my 20Tactical is a 50 mm 6x-24X. If it weren't for the fact that I needed a higher magnification then 24x for target shooting, I'd have bought a 3rd Elite scope, as I've been very pleased thus far with these two Elite SF scopes. (in spite of the stigma of "cheap" associated with the Bushnell name)

What I don't like about my new Burris scope is that the magnification ring turns VERY HARD. It takes a good solid grip of 3 or 4 fingers grasped around the magnification ring and the whole back eye-piece assembly to change the magnification. I'd hate to think what it would take to turn this ring in freezing temperatures! The two Elite scopes I own turn easily with just my thumb and index finger. Is this typical of a Burris?
 
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a couple of my Burris's went through a BREAKIN period with the power ring, then they smoothed right out.Try working them a bit before you install.
 
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i have a elite4200 6x24 mildot and thhe burris8x32 with fine plex. burris is on savage 223 used for target and prarie dogs and 4200 is on 22-250 ackley. the 4200 is clearer and easier to use. my power ring is still kind of hard to move on the burris for the money i think the 4200 series of scopes are hard to beat would definitly buy the 4200 again
 
i have a elite4200 6x24 mildot and thhe burris8x32 with fine plex. burris is on savage 223 used for target and prarie dogs and 4200 is on 22-250 ackley. the 4200 is clearer and easier to use. my power ring is still kind of hard to move on the burris for the money i think the 4200 series of scopes are hard to beat would definitly buy the 4200 again


It's hard to ignore the fact that the Bushnell Elites say "Made In Japan" on them.....the same place where some of the best optics like Cannon and Nikon have been coming from.
 
IMHO, the 6-24 SF Bushnell to have is the 30mm tube, 50mm objective version. The 40mm version is severely lacking in adjustment range. Check the specs and be surprised, as I was.
 
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My Black Diamond was fuzzy in the center,all of your grips applied to mine. Bought a VX3 in 8.5x25x50MM Leupold and I didn't feel that scope was a hole lot better. I have 3 Bushnell elites 2 4200s and 1 6500. Very happy with them. Next scope will be some thing different simply because I like variety .Thinking about the new Weaver 30mm line called the "Classic Extreme"
 
My Black Diamond was fuzzy in the center,all of your grips applied to mine. Bought a VX3 in 8.5x25x50MM Leupold and I didn't feel that scope was a hole lot better. I have 3 Bushnell elites 2 4200s and 1 6500. Very happy with them. Next scope will be some thing different simply because I like variety .Thinking about the new Weaver 30mm line called the "Classic Extreme"

"fuzzy in the center" ?? I haven't heard that complaint elswhere yet. Maybe the dumbass at the factory put his thumb print on it. I've already heard of loose dirt being left in the tube from the factory and the service department cross threading the turret caps, or scratching the tube, etc. It only take one careless moment.

I hate to say it, but I've lost faith in the American worker long ago. While I'm still proud to own a product that says "Made In USA" on it, I still worry about the product I'm receiving until I've had a chance to un-wrap it and look it over real good.
I've have personally worked with too many US born citizens over the last 35 years (yes, that long) who I witnessed were directly responsible for delivering a product or job, but couldn't give a crap about it, prompted by a boss with an attitude "get-er done... collect the money....and quickly move on".
 
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