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Hi folks:
I have been reviewing the past threads but have questions.
I am looking to shoot 105-108 VLD bullets in a 8 twist barrel.
How many grooves are typical for this set-up?
What is the popular degree of throat lead?

Frank
 
Frank, as far as I can tell there's no preferred number of grooves although there are a few people who feel strongly that an odd number (3 or 5) is better because "it stresses the jacket less."

1.5 degree taper is most widely used IME.

al
 
Thanks Al, at this point I am looking for all the info I can get.
Frank
 
Anytime you build a "first" rifle for competition, the wise choice is to go with what is common; with what has worked for other people. When everything is new to you, it is always best to cut down the number of potential problems.

So, what Al said. Rather than pick a barrel manufacturer by the number of groove they use, pick a manufacturer that other experienced competitors use -- Bartlien, Broughton, Hart, Kreiger, Shilen, to name a few. This is not to say that other barrels are not potential winners -- for example, one of my best competition barrels was a Pac-Nor, and I'm going to try a couple Douglas barrels this year. But these will go on rifles that are already proven over several years of competiton.

As to the forcing cone angle, again, what Al said. 1.5 degrees half-cone angle is well proven. There have been been both arguments and test that other angles might offer some advantages, but the results are all what the doctors call anecdotal. No statistically significant proof.

The time to experiment is after you have some experience under your belt. The questions you are asking concern barrels, and they are a disposable item. When you have a rifle capable of competing at a high level, your experiments -- changes from what is customary -- will be far easier to conduct.

FWIW
 
Thanks for the info Charles. How many grooves do you have in your barrels?
Frank
 
I really have no idea. That was my point -- I pick barrels, not grooves. I pick the manufacturer, and let them decide what they can make best. Apparently that's not enough for you.
 
Take Charles’s advice and run with it! He will not steer you wrong. Like he says pick your Barrel Manufacturer and go with what they offer.
I look forward to seeing you at the Nationals Charles.
Baron from Mississippi
 
Thanks for the advise. I have settled on a Hart barrel. I shoot IBS for score and have had good success with their barrels.
Now to start this new adventure.
Thanks again, Frank
 
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