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Hi guys, I hope that this is in the correct section. I am a new member to the forum and am looking to shoot a lot more with my local club. i just picked up a nice .22 it is a hall action with a schieln barrel (i hope i spelled it correctly) and a mcMillen bench rest stock, it also had a tuner and a 36 weaver scope. i really like the rifle and am learning how to shoot it fairly well. i am not to sure about what ammo to run in it currently i use black box, also how much should i clean it and how do i set up the tuner? any info would be very much appreciated. Currently it is shooting one hole groups at 50 yrds if that helps. i just seam to be chasing the 9 ring around a lot.
 
If it is shooting one hole groups just keep doing what you are doing and leave the tuner where it is. Chasing the 9 ring means your wind flag watching can use some improvement, but then we can all improve in that regard. Proper spelling for the barrel is Shilen. Barrel should be cleaned before accuracy falls off. Most of us clean after each card shot. Welcome to the world of rim fire BR. bob
 
HI Bob, thank you for your response so clean it after every 50-100 shots?? also what ammo is everyone using ??
 
I would guess that most of us shoot Eley Black Box, only we test it and select the lot #s that our rifles like. If you are just starting out, I wouldn't worry about that right now. Having a good shooting rifle makes learning this game easier. Understand that the wind will move your bullets around. Try this: for a right to left wind, aim a little low and to the right at about 4 or 5 o'clock. For a right to left wind, aim a little high and to the left. The more the wind blows, the farther away you need to aim. Use your sighters to determine how much you need to hold off. Good luck.
 
The best way to learn is to shoot, a lot. Keep an eye on the flags and practice. Always shoot over the flags, shooting without them is a waste of ammo. When you have a conditon that holds, shoot that. When you see a change, try using the same hold and fire a shot. That should give you some perspective of how far the wind can move a bullet. Don't do this in a match! There are times when a small change can move a bullet a long ways. Try any advice you're given, you will get a lot of conflicting ideas. Keep what works for you, disregard the rest. What works for me may or may not work for you.

Good luck,

Ken Henderson
 
ktval67 said:
HI Bob, thank you for your response so clean it after every 50-100 shots?? also what ammo is everyone using ??
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Every 50 shots.

I've never been one to clean my rifle and get beat regularly by those that do. Every 50 shots comes closer to "after every card" than 100 shots by about 60 shots on average.

Get yourself some good cleaning equipment to make the task as easy as possible.
 
What do you recommend for "good cleaning equiptment" ? thank you
 
Call Dan Killough at KSS and get a Hall bore guide, an Ivy rod with bore guide insert an Ivy patch jag and some 1-1/8 patches. It will set you back less than $100. If you like to brush the bore (many don't) ask Dan to sell you some that fit the bore/rod. You will also need some grease for the bolt lugs, but I bet you have grease in your shop. Never ever run the rod through the rifle without first putting in the bore guide. If you want to be meticulous then ask Dan for a tuner cleaner as well, but making one out of a 6 inch piece of wood dowel that fits inside the tuner is easy. 3 inch patches work fine for cleaning the tuner. As for solvent I just started using Marvel Mystery Oil after years using Rim Fire blend and/or Pro Shot. Me, immediately after a card I do one dry patch, one or two wet patches then 4 or 5 dry patches and its good to go 99% of the time. A wee spot of grease on the bolt lugs and cocking piece about every other card after wiping the old grease off the bolt and lug seats. Call Allan Hall and ask him about bolt maintenance. He will give you far more detailed information than we can here. And Allan is a good guy to talk with to boot. Again, don't ever stick a rod down the bore without the bore guide and for heavens sake don't clean the bore from the muzzle, ever. bob
 
Bore guide made for your rifle
1 piece cleaning rod (or rods, one for patches and one for brushes) with either wrap or pierce jags
Cleaning cradle either bought or homemade
A dozen bronze 22 rimfire brushes (if you choose to brush) - NO STAINLESS BRUSHES PLEASE
500/1000 "finished both sides" patches that fit your jag (fit snugly but not too tight in the barrel)
A bottle of solvent - your guess is as good as mine
Some kind of short deally to wipe out the action as a last step
 
Hi guys thank you very much for all of your help. I was just wondering on cleaning the rifle do you push the patch threw then pull it back up the barrel or once it goes threw it's done when it comes out the other end. Also when u brush the barrel do you do it with a dry brush of use cleaning solution on it?
 
I push a patch with solvent down the bore first. Always just push the patch down the barrel once. Never bring all that dirt and crud (especially that first patch which will pick up the abrasive primer residue) back through your bore. Repeat with a clean patch with solvent. Then place solvent on the brush. That way you will get chemical as well as mechanical action working to dislodge any lead or carbon fouling. You can do 2-3 strokes with the brush, pushing all the way though each time (never try to reverse the brush in the bore). Then follow-up with a another wet patch. Then a couple of dry patches. Done.
 
Awesome thank you. Do you ever leave your bore wet and the run a dry patch down it just before shooting?
 
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