interesting stock
- Thread starter sdean
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Here is the IBS rule:
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VII. Long Range Competition Rules
C) Light Gun Class:
2) The rear rest must not be mechanical in nature. Bunny ear type similar bags are acceptable.
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Pages 29 - 30
http://internationalbenchrest.com/downloads/IBS_Rule_Book_12b_Revised_2012.pdf
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Jefferson
Guest
if I may say you have the wrong bag for that stock,( you probalby know that) get a bag with a 1/2 flat or so to fit the bottom better,
I made one a few years back, the WINGS as I called them were a tad higher from the bottom (about middle I believe or just higher) then the bottom should fit into the bottom between the ears better.
Back then (12 years ago I did not know anybody to make a stock like that and just gluing WINGS did not seem like it may work) ESPECIALLY if attending my first couple of years shooting centerfire BR, I had enough problems just worrying about wind flag designs let alone a new style stock
kept thinking on stocks and finally had a hand in a design that caught on (the J in JTR BR)
Jefferson
I made one a few years back, the WINGS as I called them were a tad higher from the bottom (about middle I believe or just higher) then the bottom should fit into the bottom between the ears better.
Back then (12 years ago I did not know anybody to make a stock like that and just gluing WINGS did not seem like it may work) ESPECIALLY if attending my first couple of years shooting centerfire BR, I had enough problems just worrying about wind flag designs let alone a new style stock
kept thinking on stocks and finally had a hand in a design that caught on (the J in JTR BR)
Jefferson
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Hombre0321
Guest
Mr. Jefferson, I am not to sure that I agree with you about this being the wrong bag. It very well may be wrong but time and expermenting would tell that in time. Since this is something of a new concept the general thinking may not work here. It would seem to me that this stock may track off of the top of the ears and not in the valley as is the usual case.
I think that what will determine what is the correct bag for this setup may be how the rifle tracks on the top of the ears, and if it settles were the stock is riding on the bottom of the valley as is the case with a conventional type stock.
It also may just take a little thinking outside of the box and coming up with a complettly different type of bag design. Interesting idea though...
Roland
Dick Grosbier
Club Coordinator
I am not going to make any comment on legality.
I am going to say I do not understand how it could be nearly as good as it might be bad. Instead of having one or two points contacting the bag you have either 3 or 4 depending on the bag you use. It seems like a whole lot harder to be consistent with to me, too many variables.
Dick
I am going to say I do not understand how it could be nearly as good as it might be bad. Instead of having one or two points contacting the bag you have either 3 or 4 depending on the bag you use. It seems like a whole lot harder to be consistent with to me, too many variables.
Dick
I also am reluctant for the same reasons, and feel it would take some very disciplined handling and placement of the rear bag to keep consistency to torque and bag slap effects.
If I see them taking home the "wood" at matches, I know doubt will have to re-think my current position to them, but as of know I foresee to many determined variables to the points of contact, as Dick does, to that design with a legal bunny eared bag for LT-gun.
It is interesting and good to see people trying new things.....
Donovan
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albow
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Hi
Came across this thread with a picture of the back end of my stock and thought I would explain the thought behind the design.
For about the past 4 years a few of us at my range have been playing with stabilising wings in the butt of our LG's.
The intention is to have the rear wings actually provide the tracking surface for the stock to run on top of the ears providing a wider footprint to counteract the torque of the rifle during firing and bolt operation. The bottom of the butt between the ears is not meant to touch on the bottom only slightly on the sides to remove and lateral movement of the stock. As far as repeatability and tracking, there is no issue with the additional points of contact compared to a standard stock.
The photo of the rear wing is only part of the equation. I have also modified one of the 3" offset stocks I make and gone to a 6" wide foreend too to help with stability and torque of the rifle. Below are a couple of pictures of the complete rifle.
Happy to answer any other questions
Came across this thread with a picture of the back end of my stock and thought I would explain the thought behind the design.
For about the past 4 years a few of us at my range have been playing with stabilising wings in the butt of our LG's.
The intention is to have the rear wings actually provide the tracking surface for the stock to run on top of the ears providing a wider footprint to counteract the torque of the rifle during firing and bolt operation. The bottom of the butt between the ears is not meant to touch on the bottom only slightly on the sides to remove and lateral movement of the stock. As far as repeatability and tracking, there is no issue with the additional points of contact compared to a standard stock.
The photo of the rear wing is only part of the equation. I have also modified one of the 3" offset stocks I make and gone to a 6" wide foreend too to help with stability and torque of the rifle. Below are a couple of pictures of the complete rifle.
Happy to answer any other questions