Well Carp, There are those that like and those, for whatever reason, that dislike some people or things. The problem here is some have gleaned at least some knowledge from Bill. It's those people I feel sorry for. I don't have that problem. If I want to talk to Bill he only lives a couple of hours away or I can catch him at one of the shoots as he usually shows up locally there. I will maintain always that Bill is, and has always been since I've known him, totally dedicated to the advancement especially of rimfire. He has always, from the first time I ever met him, been as enthusastic or more so than a little boy anticipating his first bicycle. He will tell you his thoughts in honesty what he really believes or knows for sure and as far as rimfire he has probably forgotten more than most of us will ever know. He's never asked me a penny for the info either. He's always been a gentleman and friend and I've never heard a foul word out of his mouth. Not even common everyday ones we hear every day from a lot of people we both know including myself. I'm sure there are some just like him in that regard right here on BR Central. I just don't know them personally. He may seem eccentric or maybe is at times but that is not unusual for achievers like him. Two other gentleman come to mind that I have personally met and trust also is Gene Davis and Mark Penrod. We are fortunate indeed to have a good pool of other gunsmiths around and I'm not faulting them in any way. I just don't know them. I guess that's my 2 cents worth.