Help getting even necks on reduced brass.

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tricrown

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I used some fire form barrels to ready new brass for next season. The 30BR, 30 Dasher, and 6BR imp all turned out fine. But the 22BR imp cases have been very hard to get near right. The process went:
6BR Lapua brass was run through a FL 22BR die.
All cases were loaded the same with an upside down bullet seated to a depth that provided .002” neck chamber clearance and then fired.
Fired cases were first turned to within .0005” of finished thickness. Then turned again at finished size and turned once more at same settings.
Cases were fired again with a full charge with no need to size.

All readings were taken at 3 points per case with a cheap tubing mic that was in a holder using one click on the ratchet nob. Turning was done by hand with a Sinclair NT1000 and 40 deg cutter held by aluminum shims that were clamped in an aluminum barrel vice. When I went to sort the 80 cases into 2 boxes of 40 the thickness measurements varied at first by as much as .008”. Half of the half or so that came in where they were suppose to still had a .001” or .002” high or low point.

Even though they were all treated the same the cases had blown out differently after both firings. 10 had extra headspace that caused hard bolt closing. On some when I went to even their neck thickness after the second firing I noticed that maybe a quarter were so tight that they went into the expander mandrel hard. Just as many went in with no handle pressure.

I've had trouble before making good even 22BR cases and was wondering if these are common problems when trying to reduce case necks “down” from their original size? Was also wondering if reaming them out right after the first fire-forming before turning would make for more even neck turning? Any tricks?
 
Ahhhhhh, the voice of EXPERIENCE!!!!

gottaluvvit!

you've got a whole raft of things in there but I've got a couple ideas for you to mull over.

#1, stepped neck bushing, sizing directly down using a 22BR die will NOT get you straight necks.

#2, when stepping down be sure to set your FF headspace TIGHT.

#3, yes turning after FF is effective.

al
 
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Well I think I got it.
Trim brass to even AOL.
Turn necks to correct length and thickness.
FL size 6BR down to 22BR with sizing button in.
Trim brass to even AOL again.
Turn necks to correct thickness again. (They get fat and uneven from sizing down.)

Loaded up 70 with AMax bullets for sorting and there wasn't .0002” difference between the whole bunch.
 
Well I think I got it.
Trim brass to even AOL.
Turn necks to correct length and thickness.
FL size 6BR down to 22BR with sizing button in.
Trim brass to even AOL again.
Turn necks to correct thickness again. (They get fat and uneven from sizing down.)

Loaded up 70 with AMax bullets for sorting and there wasn't .0002” difference between the whole bunch.

Check 'em again after you fire them.

Then again after you resize them for reload.

al
 
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