Has the fad run its course ?

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Hammer1

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Has the PPC fad run its course and is the 222 ready to make its comeback ?

Have a sleeved 700 ready.

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222's are great. I have 2, one Rem 40xbr and a sleeved Rem 700. I have shot the best ever single group with the sleeved Rem, but I also have 2 ppc's. One is a custom, Stole Panda, Kreiger, Jewel and a Mac Millan stock and a trued 700 Rem., The custom ppc will generally aggregate better. Al.
 
What is a 222??? Wasn't that a fad from the 50s? i seem to remember some of the really old f*rts talking about it.:cool:
 
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"Borrowed" from my article over on the 6mmBR site.

The .222 Remington

I am a competition shooter, a cartridge collector, and an amateur historian, not necessarily in that order. I thought that this Forum would be a good place to share a little of my interests with you by describing a few of the competition cartridges from my collection and giving a little history of how they came to be. I’ll start with one that everybody knows, the .222 Remington.

In 1948 Remington introduced their new Model 722 rifles. The first “short action” Remington, it was chambered in 300 Savage and 257 Roberts and advertised as a new, lighter weight, big game rifle. But even before the first 722 found its way to gun store shelves, Remington was looking at the rifle as the foundation for a new live-varmint cartridge, something that would fill the gap between the 22 Hornet and the 220 Swift. Rather than try to modify one of the existing cartridges, Remington R&D decided to develop a completely new case. The prototype looked very much like todays 221 Fireball. It was 1.450″ long and loaded with a 48-grain soft-point bullet. Different primers, powders, and powder charges were tested for velocity and accuracy. But Mike Walker, the designer of the 722 action, thought the cartridge was too short to feed reliably through the 722 action and so he recommended a slightly longer case.

With the redesigned cartridge in hand, he and F&S Gun Editor Warren Page set forth to test it in the field. They found the bullet to be too hard resulting in ricochets and unreliable expansion and recommended the weight be increased to 50 grains, the jacket thinned, and the velocity increased to 3200 fps. All three changes were adopted and the new .222 Remington was introduced in early 1950.

Both Page and Walker were Benchrest shooters and saw the potential of the new cartridge for 100 and 200-yard benchrest. It was first used in competition in 1951 and started winning everything in sight, dominating for more than 20 years. But there’s not a Benchrest shooter alive who doesn’t think a good cartridge can be made better and even it was wildcatted. Shown below are six cartridges from my collection. A .222 Prototype, a standard .222 Remington varmint load, a .222 Remington Benchrest load, and three wildcats, the 222-35, 222-40, and 222 Haney.

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Don't guess y'all are ready for the 222 Rem Mag necked up to 6mm to re-dominate the Sporter Class again, either...
 
Bill,
I was always told the same thing...a scale model of 30-06. I heard it some 1500 miles away from you and 30 years ago. The prototype casing looks like 218 Bee with a .224 bullet as far as my memory goes.

John M.Carper
 
Not. Although the 222 has proven to be a very accurate cartridge, it's now almost universally accepted that "short and fat" will almost without exception outperform "long and skinny".

Ford42
 
Universally accepted by who (whom)? Not me! Have you ever seen a .30 Aardvark? Or any of the other long and skinny or long and fat or short and skinny wildcats?

Ray
 
Cheech

Whats the history on the 222-35 and Haney? looks interesting.

Ethan
 
Not. Although the 222 has proven to be a very accurate cartridge, it's now almost universally accepted that "short and fat" will almost without exception outperform "long and skinny".

Ford42

At five seven and stable, I take exception to that statement.

Concho Bill
 
Oh wait. I get it now. He meant a short and fat shooter, not cartridge. He's right about that. ;)

High Seas - The 222 Haney is the child of Roger Haney, a Benchrest shooter who used to visit the Forum on a regular basis. I don't know where he is today.

Ray
 
Cheecho,

I read somewhere that the 222 was a scale model 30-06.

Bill

Actually no, it's a scaled down 7X57 Mauser. When the 222 came out in the early 1950s, most of the other varmint cartridges were rimed or semi-rimmed (22 Hornet, 218 Bee, 219 Zipper, 220 Swift). Gun writers looked at the little 222 rimless case and thought it resembled the 30-06 but they didn't do the measurements.
 
I'm not sure there was anything scientific about the size and shape of the 222. It started out as the 1.45" case that I showed in my photo and Mike Walker convinced them to make it longer. They probably said, "Make it about 1/4" longer. Yeah that looks about right." Mike could probably tell us the real story.

ray
 
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