GSI Bullet Feeder

Gunner223

Gunner223

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For you guys that use a Dillon 650 in .223, GSI International has all of the bugs worked out of their .223 bullet feeder. I have loaded about 10000 rounds in the last couple of months without any problems. Only a rare inverted bullet in the drop column. This is the answer to mass ground squirrel reloading. See www.gsiinternational.com.

Don
 
The Fowler Bullet feeder is superior in my opinion

Mac Fowler of Angier, NC came up with a bullet feeding die over twenty yeras ago. He holds one of the few legit bullet feeder patents. It will work in any 5 station progressive that uses 7/8 x 14 tpi dies. The original die came with different liners and could be adjusted from 17caliber to 50 caliber. Then he marketed caliber specific dies. It uses a MA systems or Howell Collator to feed his die. I have laoded as much as 3600 rounds per hour with a 1050 Dillon.

Xaviers product (GSI) is nice but expensive and not universal to other machines.

Nat Lambeth
 
Try as I might, I couldn't find a price for their product. ????
 
Aztec, Call their 800 number. I think they are around $600.00.

Rusty, How do you keep the primer tube and the powder measure filled?

Don
 
Prime tubes.

Don:

I made a bracket to fit over the Dillon primer tube shield. The bracket has a threaded rod pointing upward. I made a turrent holding 10 primer tubes. The turrent looks like the barrels of a gatling gun. It is held down with a wing nut. Each primer tube has its own pull pins to allow the primers I have a dentent ball that aligned each tube with the Dillon primer tube. I have multiple primer turrents. I start off with the Dillon tube filled and 1000 primers in the turrent. I have a counter on my loader and turn the turrent and pin every 100 strokes of the press. It takes about 30 seconds to change out the turrents. I actually have a air actuated cylinder that operates my 1050 press at about one cycle per second. I can run it just faster than that without a cluster. I use a piece of rubber hose and a hose clamp as a clutch in case of a cluster.

Nat
 
ive done a 1000 an hour once on a dillon 650, if you even got close to 3600 an hour your arm would fall off.
 
Rustystud said:
Don:

I made a bracket to fit over the Dillon primer tube shield. The bracket has a threaded rod pointing upward. I made a turrent holding 10 primer tubes. The turrent looks like the barrels of a gatling gun. It is held down with a wing nut. Each primer tube has its own pull pins to allow the primers I have a dentent ball that aligned each tube with the Dillon primer tube. I have multiple primer turrents. I start off with the Dillon tube filled and 1000 primers in the turrent. I have a counter on my loader and turn the turrent and pin every 100 strokes of the press. It takes about 30 seconds to change out the turrents. I actually have a air actuated cylinder that operates my 1050 press at about one cycle per second. I can run it just faster than that without a cluster. I use a piece of rubber hose and a hose clamp as a clutch in case of a cluster.

Nat
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I have two RL-1000's I would like to retrofit and make them run more on auto. I had Dillon convert both machines with up dates to make them work like the 1050's only taller frames. I sure would like to see pictures of your improvements to make them run faster with less attention.
 
Nat, Wow! That is fast. I feel that I need to wait for the powder to fall so I pause for just a bit at the top of the stroke on my 650. I do about 100 in 3 minutes and then refill the hoppers. Follow big Al's request and post a couple of pictures. Thanks,

Don
 
Gunner223 said:
Nat, Wow! That is fast. I feel that I need to wait for the powder to fall so I pause for just a bit at the top of the stroke on my 650. I do about 100 in 3 minutes and then refill the hoppers. Follow big Al's request and post a couple of pictures. Thanks,

Don
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+1 on that being fast. I can't even maintain 1000 per hour on my 1050 with Super Comp.
 
Boy, Al, you sure did get in on the.............

ground floor w/the 1000s, I read where those were THE best press dillon ever made, I think they only made like, what, 400 or so?? :eek:
 
Powder drop..

For those of you who have had powder drop issues with your Dillon presses and loading bottle necked cases. i.e. Powder bridging. Here is a one fix I have found that helps.

Drill a small hole below the measure and above the travel of the drop tube powder funnel. I machine a slot and turn a groove above it. I then take a small piece of brass or aluminum bead chain and insert it into the hole in the drop tube. I use a rubber band to hold the bead chain in the groove with the bead chain extended down the powder drop tube. I measure the bead chain and use enought to have it below the top of the powder funnel but above the case rim when the loader handle is down at the bottom of its stroke. As one strokes the loader the bead chain moves up and down though the power tube and the funnel where it narrows down. With a brass or aluminum bead chain there are no issues with static. The bead chain breaks any powder bridges. This helps insure consistent powder throws. For .223 I have I have switched to a Hornady powder measure. I have worn out about 10 Dillon powder measures. Yes, they replace them but I find them problem matic on rifle loading applications. Yes, I have tired them all and a Harrolds can be modified to work just fine. I have also used the Quick Measure. It requires more time to measure the powder. (works better on a 550 press) It works better with stick powders but is slow in droping Powder. It was amazing how well the Lee Powder disc worked but plastic parts could not take the wear especially with small ball powders.

Nat Lambeth
 
No stick powder has ever worked out for me with any (and I mean all) of Dillon's powder measures. I just long ago gave up using stick powder. But then Dillon never has advised the use of stick powder in his measures.

It might help to remember I had gone through all the 400 mods right up through the present interaction to the 550B. I have owned these two RL- 1000's for a lot of years and they have been back to Dillon's factory store a bunch of times for rebuild, and up-dates. Cost new was 1500.00 bucks a pop. I have no idea how many were made. They never had any guarantee in the day, like all of his machines do today. I know that the information about Nat's modification to the powder measure is vary interesting.

Thanks for the information.:D
 
Dillon Loaders

I started in 1981 with a Dillon 450. Without notice I received an 450B upgrade kit from Dillon in 1983. I still have that press even though the frame has been replaced with a 550B. I have two 550B Dillons so one can be set up with small primers and one with large. I have two 1050(s) setup the same way one is set up with a MA Systems 11" collator (9mm-45). The other is set up with a Howell 21" collator (.223). I would not change a thing.

Dillon has stood by their word and replaced every part without the first question.

Dave Howell at ammo load was working on a electric ammo load machine for 223 and 308. I would assume they are available.

I find case prep is the main issue with any reloading. Good going in better coming out.

Nat Lambeth
 
Nat, Very interesting fix on the drop tube. I only load .223 on my 650 and size and deprime all of my brass then clean and check for length before loading. With clean cases I don't have any powder bridging problems. As the press indexes the shell plate snaps into the ball detent causing a piece or two of powder to jump out of the case. I just let my finger ride on the case mouth to prevent this. I also have moved the powder measure one station to the left. Have you experienced this problem with the powder jumping out of the case?

Don
 
Gunner223 said:
Nat, Very interesting fix on the drop tube. I only load .223 on my 650 and size and deprime all of my brass then clean and check for length before loading. With clean cases I don't have any powder bridging problems. As the press indexes the shell plate snaps into the ball detent causing a piece or two of powder to jump out of the case. I just let my finger ride on the case mouth to prevent this. I also have moved the powder measure one station to the left. Have you experienced this problem with the powder jumping out of the case?

Don
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When I load 9mm Luger rounds, the case is vary full using 800X powder. I do have to use more care with this set-up than any other. That is not related to the powder measure. Bumping the press, or a hard case causes all the problems with the RL-1000.

When I get any bridging problems with any ball or flake powderes I wipe out the measure with liquid fabric softener. This cuts down on the static electricity that causes the problem in the first place. I have another trick I picked up from SKIP OTTO, I'll not put in print.:D
 
Rustystud said:
Mac Fowler of Angier, NC came up with a bullet feeding die over twenty yeras ago. He holds one of the few legit bullet feeder patents. It will work in any 5 station progressive that uses 7/8 x 14 tpi dies. The original die came with different liners and could be adjusted from 17caliber to 50 caliber. Then he marketed caliber specific dies. It uses a MA systems or Howell Collator to feed his die. I have laoded as much as 3600 rounds per hour with a 1050 Dillon.

Xaviers product (GSI) is nice but expensive and not universal to other machines.

Nat Lambeth
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I have a KISS Bulletfeeder on my 1050 and I can easily load 1800 rds per hour without trying. A nice cadence.
 
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