First shoots way out??

[janderson0]

The latest barrel I have I find the first shots will just not group at all. Just this Wednesday I was out and the first 5 went well over .5 inch. Then next five was under .250. Cleaned barrel and and shot two more groups of 5 also under .250. I've noticed this the last few times out. Barrel has about 250 rounds, and it's a 6mmbr. Any suggestions or just the nature of the beast?

Last barrel on this gun same manf. and my other gun I have not seen this bad for the first few shots.

Thanks,
Jim

 

[Dave D.]

1st shot

Check the obtuse angle of your wind flags. If that doesn't work, shoot a fouler before your group. ...Dave

 

[John S]

What I can tell ya

I have a rifle with the best of everything.

The first two shots out of a clean cold barrel are so far out to the right it's scary.

Poor old Leupold fix the scope a couple of times.

Quess what? The firsts two shots out of a clean cold barrel are still out in right field BUT the following shots are on target and small. This is so wierd its nuts.

I am not going to try and fix it. I am just going to shoot two foulers.

 

[Larry Elliott]

If you know that the first two shots from a cold clean barrel aren't going to go into the group, and you're shooting in a match put them into the backstop. If it's a live varmint rifle try firing a couple of rounds, then let the rifle get completely cold before trying a group to see if the next rounds will go into a group.

 

[brian roberts]

Y'know, I used to have problems like that........

too, but back when I was using LSA as a cleaner and lube, one day I decided to do something different. I shot the barrel wet. That's right, W-E-T WET!!! When I get to the range I run a wet patch through the bore about 5 round trips, dry out the chamber, and away we go. I don't use the LSA anymore, the vehicle can cause liver cancer , so I use MPro7 oil. Try your oil(If you DAAAARRRRE ) and see if it helps, works for me!

 

[janderson0]

I get to the range once or twice a week. I shoot short sessions of about 20 shots. Or just four five shot groups.

I also clean after every 10 shots with wet patches, followed up with dry. So during a "normal session" I run a wet patch or two through then dry patches. Fire ten shoots, first four or five might as well go into the bank, next five are fine. Then stop and clean, and the next ten will shoot good.

Leads me to lean toward something about the temp, not the barrel wet or dry.

(I swab the chamber dry after cleaning)

other barrel I had sometimes shot best the first five shots. I'm not enjoying wasting 5 out of every 20 shots.

Jim

 

[brian roberts]

Well, I've come to believe..........

that "conditioning" a barrel will do significant good, over time . I may take a new, or, new-to-me barrel and, over a period of four or five days take the synthetic I use, and give it 100 round trips on two patches each day. When I go to the range, I'll uncap the barrel and run a wet down there 4-5 trips before shooting. And sometimes I may put in some rapid fire, to warm up a barrel, then quickly put the synthetic in the bore while warm, and let it sit there as it cools down, to "draw" the lube into the pores of the steel. Before I leave, I clean up well, and cap the muzzle again. A couple days later(3-5), I take the rifle, uncap it, then go in with a wet brush for 4-5 trips, then two wet patches, then a dry or two, then a damp, cap it back up, and I'm done. The rifles are always stood right side up on the caps while stored . Now, when I say "Wet" I only wet the front half of an inch and three-quarters square patch(for .22-24CF). So, I may not always be dripping wet, which I avoid, as it makes things take longer. I do use more on the patches after brushing, when I follow up w/two wets, this is so there is plenty of fluid to push out the debris, then I follow-up w/two drys, then a wet to dampen the bore before resuming fire. HTH.