Dinosaurs
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JerrySharrett
Senile Member
Keep voting for the same bunch and then expect things to change?? And you all will "Because I don't want to waste my vote"?
Well you just did when you voted for McCain/Romney. They are of the same stripe as Slick Willy and Bommy Wommy. They just wear a different color necktie!!
Ain't gonna happen but go to Wikipedia and read up on Jim Webb!!
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PS-The fight about the queers an Obama Care ain't over YET!!....LBGT, Left Bolt Got Tight?????
(Sorry, but I don't do PC!! My PC doesn't do PC either.)
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Well you just did when you voted for McCain/Romney. They are of the same stripe as Slick Willy and Bommy Wommy. They just wear a different color necktie!!
Ain't gonna happen but go to Wikipedia and read up on Jim Webb!!
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PS-The fight about the queers an Obama Care ain't over YET!!....LBGT, Left Bolt Got Tight?????
(Sorry, but I don't do PC!! My PC doesn't do PC either.)
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mike in co
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my limited opinion is that professional politicians are the problem.
it is a career with the job description being how much money can i make. it is no longer public service.
forget parties, never vote for an incumbent, never
it is a career with the job description being how much money can i make. it is no longer public service.
forget parties, never vote for an incumbent, never
Hunter
Chasin' the Sunset
Jerry, I don't believe we would have seen as much left-leaning change had either of the former been elected. As for voting for an "ideal" candidate on a fringe ticket, why "waste [your] vote" when he/she ain't gonna get elected.
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Bill Wynne
Active member
Let us show them who we are
I know that some will not agree with me but please read this with an open mind.
My roots go back in this country way beyond the War for Independence. Most of my people settled in the southern states. I had people who fought for our independence from England. I had several forefathers who fought in the War of Northern Aggression for the South. There are many headstones in our southern cemeteries that commend their service to the Confederacy. They fought for a poor cause 150 years ago and the South lost and this country reunited. The Civil War was a terrible mistake.
There are no longer people alive who had fathers and uncles and cousins in that war. Although I never considered the Rebel Flag stood for hate some actually do.
Out of consideration for those, It is time the state governments, on their own, retire the Confederate flags to museums. We are, after all, one nation, undivided. The United States of America.
Concho Bill
I know that some will not agree with me but please read this with an open mind.
My roots go back in this country way beyond the War for Independence. Most of my people settled in the southern states. I had people who fought for our independence from England. I had several forefathers who fought in the War of Northern Aggression for the South. There are many headstones in our southern cemeteries that commend their service to the Confederacy. They fought for a poor cause 150 years ago and the South lost and this country reunited. The Civil War was a terrible mistake.
There are no longer people alive who had fathers and uncles and cousins in that war. Although I never considered the Rebel Flag stood for hate some actually do.
Out of consideration for those, It is time the state governments, on their own, retire the Confederate flags to museums. We are, after all, one nation, undivided. The United States of America.
Concho Bill
JerrySharrett
Senile Member
Bill, I'm kind-of like you in depth of commitment. My earliest American ancestors settled in what is now Washington County Virginia in 1771 on a Patent from Ole King George. They were Germans and how that happened I don't know. They then bought Land Grants when the Virginia Land Office opened in 1779. I still hold title to some of that land and have the original sheep-skin Grant, signed by Patrick Henry when he was Governor of the Commonwealth.
A piece of that is now part of the holdings of the Kettlefoot Gun Club. We join boundaries, today, by some 500'.
As to the SCOTUS recent rulings, keep in mind, they do not have the authority to legislate. They only have Constitutional authority to interpret law. i.e. They can be over-ruled by Congress, call your Congressional members....and Congress can be over-ruled by the people 1) by voting them out and 2) by Constitutional Amendments. Its still WE THE PEOPLE if we work to make it that.
As far as the Civil War being a mistake, the outcome certainly was, because the Civil War (of Northern Aggression) was about States rights, not slavery.
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IMHO, that undivided part ended 20 Jan, 2009. The sight of a rainbow now disgusts me. I find myself having to censor the tv news this week from my grandkids after the media insists on gloating over the victory for gays by showing grown adults in acts that have been considered taboo for centuries.The floodgates are now wide opened, and the "if it feels good -do it" crowd of our generation will continue to take the unnatural
to the extreme (ex. the Jenners).
JerrySharrett
Senile Member
Bill G, as to loosing your vote, the last 4 Presidential votes I voted "RP from Texas". Ross Perot from Texas for two, Ron Paul from Texas for two. You must agree if Ole Ross had gotten elected NAFTA, GATT, TTP, et. al. would not exist and that Giant Sucking Sound of the Slick Willy/GW Bush era would not have happened. Look it up, the last 3 months of the GW Bush term the US was loosing some 800,000 jobs per month!!
The last 2 Presidential elections I voted for for Ron Paul of Texas, if Ron Paul would have gotten elected, the Federal Reserve Notes you carry would not exist. Again, look it up, those Federal Reserve Notes, which you PAY rent to use, which are still not yours, would be gone and so would the ILLEGAL FED!!
Again, as to loosing your vote, the only time you loose that privilege is when you DON'T vote. Your party/candidate may not win but if you voted, it counted.
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mike in co
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the federal reserve board is not illegal....it is an board to direct overall financial planning. government appointees.
the federal reserve banks are not illegal. voted for my your legal reps. the only portion the is questionable is:
1)as private businesses why have the failed to pay income taxes for nearly 100 yrs, why untill recently were they never auditied by the irs when everyone else has been.
2) why do we use FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES where the fed reserve make interest for government spending, instead of UNITED STATES NOTES on which the government would not pay interest.
the banking system is in place to prevent the government from uncontrolled printing of paper money which would result in uncontrolled inflation.
kennedy issued UNITED STATES NOTES to the fed reserve system for 10 months straight, they issued none of it. in the 11 month he was killed. johnson replaced all the US NOTES with federal reserve notes.
the federal reserve banks are not illegal. voted for my your legal reps. the only portion the is questionable is:
1)as private businesses why have the failed to pay income taxes for nearly 100 yrs, why untill recently were they never auditied by the irs when everyone else has been.
2) why do we use FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES where the fed reserve make interest for government spending, instead of UNITED STATES NOTES on which the government would not pay interest.
the banking system is in place to prevent the government from uncontrolled printing of paper money which would result in uncontrolled inflation.
kennedy issued UNITED STATES NOTES to the fed reserve system for 10 months straight, they issued none of it. in the 11 month he was killed. johnson replaced all the US NOTES with federal reserve notes.
JerrySharrett
Senile Member
The Federal Reserve is not part of the US government. It is a provately owned entity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOlSadj8lOo&app=desktop
US Constitution Article ! Section 8, Clause 5;
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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
Just because the word Federal is used doesn't make the Federal Reserve a government agency, note-Federal Express.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOlSadj8lOo&app=desktop
US Constitution Article ! Section 8, Clause 5;
Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
Just because the word Federal is used doesn't make the Federal Reserve a government agency, note-Federal Express.
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Bill Wynne
Active member
Jerry, My friend. I do mean friend.
The Southern states started leaving the Union before Lincoln was elected.
The first shots were fired by the South.
The North fought to preserve the Union.
Say what you like about the reasons for the war, if there had been no slaves, there would have been no war.
I believe the Civil War was a great mistake and a great waste of human life.
Today, I am glad the South did not win and I am a Southerner.
I have seen this country from North to South and East to West. I wouldn't select one state for removal. The people are good and we are more alike than different except some people talk funny.
Concho Bill
r44astro
New member
Shucks, history says other wise. Civil War was about State's rights. They taught this when I went school, of course I am old, but not as old as Jerry!
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mike in co
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please read what i posted.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD is a government agency.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS are private corps......NO LIST OF OWNERS, NO AUDITS UNTIL LAST YR, NO INCOME TAX PAID.
the us printing office prints paper "money" ( not coins) when authorized by the president, by signature...either US NOTES or federal resrve notes.
fed reserve notes are SOLD for the cost of printing, but issued at face value by the fed reserve banks
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD is a government agency.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS are private corps......NO LIST OF OWNERS, NO AUDITS UNTIL LAST YR, NO INCOME TAX PAID.
the us printing office prints paper "money" ( not coins) when authorized by the president, by signature...either US NOTES or federal resrve notes.
fed reserve notes are SOLD for the cost of printing, but issued at face value by the fed reserve banks
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mike in co
Guest
actually that is true for travel within one state....
travel is not restricted, no papers required...
you may get detained for a while, but a guy in idaho has been doing it for years.
travel is not restricted, no papers required...
you may get detained for a while, but a guy in idaho has been doing it for years.
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mike in co
Guest
lol
what was taught in what school might come into question here...
what do you thing the south taught to support their position in the war ??
what do you think the north taught ??
what was taught in what school might come into question here...
what do you thing the south taught to support their position in the war ??
what do you think the north taught ??
JerrySharrett
Senile Member
And you (we) thought it was all in Ft. Knox..and it was in US Custody
Wrong...much of it is here and it is not in US custody because the Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE entity!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2m3t2Yr8Vg
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Wrong...much of it is here and it is not in US custody because the Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE entity!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2m3t2Yr8Vg
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Boyd Allen
Active member
Jerry.
What caused the Confederacy to try to withdraw from the union? What caused the break?
What caused the Confederacy to try to withdraw from the union? What caused the break?
Hunter
Chasin' the Sunset
If you don't mind, I'll take a run at that.
Quoting from Southern History of the War, by E.A. Pollard (1977), at pages 40-42.
“the North had been distinctly warned by the conservative parties of the country, that the election of Lincoln by a strictly sectional vote would be taken as a declaration of war against the South….It was known, in a word, that Lincoln owed his election to the worst enemies of the South….The anti-slavery party had organized in 1840, with about seven thousand voters; and in 1860 had succeeded in electing [Lincoln, with less than 40% of the popular vote. The] Union … no longer afforded any guaranty of her [the South’s] rights or any permanent sense of security, and … had brought her under the domination of a growing fanaticism in the North, the sentiments of which….would destroy her institutions, confiscate the property of her people, and even involve their lives.”
Based on the above, it strikes me that Bill is wrong (at post 12 above) about when the Southern states started leaving; however, he's right about "if there had been no slaves, there would have been no war" -- but, you might also say, if the conservatives had defeated Lincoln there may have been no war, either. As then, today the conservatives are losing ground.