Dad needs help with scattergun 1100

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Paul Fielder

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My Dad picked up a really clean but older remmy 1100. He shoots it very well and has a failure to feed issue. The front of the round is BARELY getting hung up on the lip of the bbl/chamber. (bolt only goes about 1" from most rearward position)

It appears to me the carrier in the trigger assembly is not lifting the round up high enough. All you have to do is push the carrier with a bit of force and it chambers just fine.

I have never taked the trigger assembly apart. Is there a certain spring you smiths recommend I replace or is a whold new trigger assembly in order. I looked at the schematic from Brownells but not sure where to start.

Any help would be appreciated.

thanks!!

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It is a very simple fix probably. Take it to your local gunsmith and he will have it right in a few minutes. Parts are plentiful and cheap. Over time you will learn how to care and feed that 1100....they are simple. Watch the smith and learn a few of the tricks. (sorry but its hard to fix trigger groups over the internet)

If you don't want to go to a smith find a skeet or trap shooter to show you the tricks...most of them have shot one or more 1100 over the years and if you shoot one in competition you learn quick how to keep em running.

That said if your dad just picked it up perhaps the trigger group needs a good cleaning. Take it out of the receiver (2 pins hold it in) and wash it good with gun scrubber (you may need an entire can) or something similar. Shake it dry then used compressed air to dry it some more. I also wonder how old/weak the recoil spring is....it should be changed every few years. Again ask the smith to do it and show you (your dad) how.

There are literally millions of 1100's in use. They are very good but after time like to eat parts, but rarely anything in the trigger group goes bad....just gets dirty from lack of attention. bob finger
 
Thanks Bob,

No local gunsmith anymore...I'm it.

The gun was basically new / old stock. I'm familiar with the 1100 & 870 as I grew up with them. I completely pulled the trigger assembly, bolt, bolt spring, etc apart. It was new on the inside like it was on the out....obviously I cleaned everything up even though it didn't really need it. Heck, the undeside of the carrier didn't have any blue wear from feeding the rounds into the mag.

I've never had this issue on an 1100. Most fixes required cleaning and a seal replacement to get things rolling. I don't mind trying to replace a suspect part in the trigger housing. Just need to know what part to order & any heads up on the labor tricks.

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Mainspring

My 1100 had the same problem. I cleaned thouroghly and replaced the mainspring in the buttstock. Simple fix, Brownelles has the parts.
 
Spend a few bucks...

...and get the Jerry Kuhnhausen shop manual for the 1100. It'll be worth every penny. My personal collection of 1100s varies from a Classic Trap to a Simmons converted 28ga skeet model. Kuhnhausen's manual has saved me a ton of time and money over the years. Honestly, for about $30 in parts total, I've kept them all shooting well for a very long time.
 
Possibly worn carrier dog or cracked carrier

Another possibility is a worn "carrier dog", and or it's spring being weak, or extremely dirty, and/or a rusted carrier dog spring and plunger. The dog is the wing shaped piece on the right hand side of the carrier that catches the slide to hold it open.

Also, the carrier itself could be cracked from metal fatigue, causing it to droop down a bit, and not bringing the cartridge up high enough. I've replaced several carriers that had hairline cracks in them on very old 1100's. The carrier was bent down slightly at the cracked area.

Best of luck. Hope you are able to fix it. Joe
 
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The outside of the magazine tube and the two steel friction pieces need to be clean and dry... no lube on them. The friction pieces should drop freely on the tube... if they don't - spring them open slightly with a screwdriver as a wedge. They can stop/restrict forward motion of the bolt. The rubber "O" ring (seal) should be in good condition or replace it. The return spring in the tube in the butt stock should be clean as well.

It is a simple very reliable shotgun.
 
Paul Fielder said:
It appears to me the carrier in the trigger assembly is not lifting the round up high enough. All you have to do is push the carrier with a bit of force and it chambers just fine.

I have never taked the trigger assembly apart. Is there a certain spring you smiths recommend I replace or is a whold new trigger assembly in order. I looked at the schematic from Brownells but not sure where to start.

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Hi Paul, maybe this will be helpful? http://www.remingtonsociety.com/images/Rem_1100_Notes__Rev_with_Pix_of_Disassembly.pdf

and how about the AGI video? http://www.americangunsmith.com/view.php?id=41
 
I have found some Remington 1100's to be a bit ammo finicky, especially when breaking them in. It almost sounds to me as if the shotgun could be short cycling just a bit due to the ammo power factor. If your dad has been shooting some of the inexpensive promotional skeet type loads, try a box or two of high brass field loads to just get everything seated well. Breaking it in with higher power factor loads may well correct your problem. I've also seen some folks substitute regular old hardware store 'O' rings for the factory graphite impregnated 'O' rings which ultimately after some usage resulted in such a short cycling malfunctions. Additionally, if your dad possibly lucked into one of the older and rather rare Remington 1100 Magnum models, you will have to use 3" shells in it for it to function correctly.
 
Oldeyes said:
I have found some Remington 1100's to be a bit ammo finicky, especially when breaking them in. It almost sounds to me as if the shotgun could be short cycling just a bit due to the ammo power factor. If your dad has been shooting some of the inexpensive promotional skeet type loads, try a box or two of high brass field loads to just get everything seated well. Breaking it in with higher power factor loads may well correct your problem. I've also seen some folks substitute regular old hardware store 'O' rings for the factory graphite impregnated 'O' rings which ultimately after some usage resulted in such a short cycling malfunctions. Additionally, if your dad possibly lucked into one of the older and rather rare Remington 1100 Magnum models, you will have to use 3" shells in it for it to function correctly.
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Interesting...I'll have to get it back in front of me. I can tell the gun is basically new and we have only been shooting a mild 2 3/4 dram 1oz load at the 1180fps mark. It's a sporting clays load that shoots like a 20 made by estate. Pretty sure it's not a magnum.

Thanks for all the suggestions & info. gang...much appreciated.

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Somebody has already mentioned, make sure the magazine tube is clean and the O-ring is good.

I found out 40 years ago how picky an 1100 can be about shells. I bought a brand new 1100 Skeet model. From day one it would not shoot reloads. It would shoot new AA's all day long and never miss a beat, I once put over 1,000 rounds of AA's through it in one day and never messed up once. If the chamber was good and clean it would shoot new Reminton hulls for the first 100 - 150 but then it would start hanging a shell in it. Clean the chamber every 100 rounds and it would shoot them. It would not shoot either of these two shell hulls as a reload, constantly had feed problems or not fully ejecting the spent hull. I sent it back to Remington twice and both times the sent it back and said there was nothing wrong with it. They finally gave me a new barrel for it and it would shoot anything I stuck through it.
 
Paul
Estate ammo at less than 1200 fps is real wimpy ammo.My AA Sporting Clays loads says 1250 or higher right on the box.My neighbor is Mel Helm and he has probaly won as many trapshooting matches as anybody using a 1100 Remington.He keeps a plastic bag with him at all times with the small parts required to keep his gun going and a quick call to his shop Helms House Of Guns will get you going in the right direction.
Ask for Mel Helm and if he isn't there call back later as his staff is sometimes full of beans. 707-545-8826
Waterboy
 
Lynn said:
Paul
Estate ammo at less than 1200 fps is real wimpy ammo.My AA Sporting Clays loads says 1250 or higher right on the box.My neighbor is Mel Helm and he has probaly won as many trapshooting matches as anybody using a 1100 Remington.He keeps a plastic bag with him at all times with the small parts required to keep his gun going and a quick call to his shop Helms House Of Guns will get you going in the right direction.
Ask for Mel Helm and if he isn't there call back later as his staff is sometimes full of beans. 707-545-8826
Waterboy
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Lynn,

The estate ammo hits the doves and whitewing hard!! I'm pretty sure it's due to the harder shot and good pattern due to less formation. It's also very sweet to shoot a 20ga load out of a 12;)

Anyway, I got in some parts from brownells and will spiff up the new (old stock) 1100 to see if it helps, but I suspect this lighter kicking ammo may be the culprit. My M1 field and 391 has no problems running the estate.

Appreciate all the replies!!

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