Cleaning Rod & Guide an Absolute Must?

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Kurly

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I've got a Dewey .22 cal cleaning rod that I could use on an Anschutz 54 but don't have a bore guide. I've heard that Dewey rods even though they're teflon coated, pick up grit and grime from cleaning, become impregnated with it and could ruin your barrel if you're not careful (not to mention the fact that the teflon could scrape the inside of the barrel).

I've got a PatchWorm that I use with Ballistol and was thinking that it would suffice, particularly since .22lr wouldn't cause any significant leading. What I'm wondering is whether I really need to get a bore guide and brush to get everything out or would the PatchWorm suffice?
 
I have the Dewey coated .22 cal cleaning rod, a couple years old now and i like it. I'm still a novice and really don't by into the impregnated crud theory.

I have damaged the coating from using it on 22 bolt actions that use a little piece of steel to flip the spent cartridge out the ejection port. It is right in the way of the cleaning rod.

Yesterday was the firt time i used a bore guide, you gotta get one! I popped in the bore guide and went to brushing, didn't have to stab at the chamber 3 or 4 times - the little ejection thingie didn't hang the rod, perfect! get one get one get one!

I'm going to order a new cleaning rod from mr phillips here in a few months now that i know how handy a bore guide is!
joe :)
 
I don't know how much crud can become embedded in a coated cleaning rod but after each pass, with any kind of rod, I have a rag handy and wipe off the rod.
 
Easy on the brushing boys!

Use a rod guide. The rod WILL wear down the lands on the barrel. Not with just one pass but remember, a .22 barrel is good for many thousands of rounds so you'll do a lot of cleaning. In my riles Eley doesn't leave any lead, just a little carbon build up just in front of the case and it comes out with a nylon brush and Hoppes, short stroked in the chamber area only. On most nylon bore guides you'll note that the hole is about a quarter of an inch in dia. and most rods are about .187 to .200 or so, to much slop. Take a piece of delrin and turn it down to fit the 1/2 recess in the rear of the bore guide and drill it to just fit the rod.

Dennis
 
Dennis,

This may be a stupid question, but where can you find delrin? I'd like a find a small piece to try the bore guide plug trick, but I really don't need to order a large supply of the stuff.
 
Delrin

Try Online Metals, they sell in small quanties, or MSC or Enco. Delrin is actually a trademarked name, the generic is acetal. it's only a few dollars a foot.

Dennis
 
Thanks. Since I only need one small piece, I'll probably need to find somebody that sells it locally.
 
Try local machine shops, they often have small pieces left over from projects and most will give it to you as it costs them more to run the paper work of selling it than its worth... Also, usually what is left over from projects is considered scrap, customer already paid for it and its not on inventory...

Happy shooting,
Mitch & Shadow...
 
Bore guide

Kurly,

Contrary to popular belief Using a patchworm is almost as bad as no bore guide. Properly made a boreguide does more than protect the entrance from the rod. It also, and perhaps more importantly, begins and folds the bristles, be they nylon or bronze, so that on entrance there is no folding and dragging on the leading edge of the chamber, they enter folded. PatchWorm types cannot do this. If you can get a proper bore guide in, use it.

By the same token retracting the rod with brush installed once out the muzzle, creates some of the same problems on crowns, folding and dragging the bristles on the sharp clean edge of the crown. Two ends of the barrel are critical, Why take precautions at one end (boreguide) and not be serious at the other. The answer here is simple, only go one way and remove the brush before retracting the rod.
Short stroking is also not the best of ideas as you are asking the folded bristles going one direction to unfold and fold in the opposite direction which also is hard on bores.

bjm
 
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