Cci br4

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Jerry Adams
I was reorganizing a storage cabinet and came across a couple of things that were interesting. The first was two cases of CCI BR4 primers. Don't know when I bought them and have never opened them. I've been using Fed 205 for quite some time. Any opinions on their quality? I guess, I should just break opn a case and see how they perform. The second thing was an old bottle of Hoppes' #9. That bottle said that it contained "ammonia, denatured ethanol and kerosene". A new bottle just mentioned kerosene. No wonder the old stuff worked and smelled so good.
 
Of course I don't know, but I don't think those primers are gonna make you happy. Have had two brushes with old primers and neither performed well in the environment presented - could have been another contributor even more responsible...who knows?...?

Old Hoppes is an entirely different story. The older is is the better it smells.
 
Primers and Hoppes

Can't help you out with info on the primers but the Hoppes I can. One on the compounds in the old Hoppes that made it work so well was the nitro benzene. They had to remove it because it is a carcinogen. I just had the old Hoppes run through a mass spec. With that info I then added the nitro back to the new formula. I am not saying shooters should do this. In fact the way I see some people splash solvent around they shouldn't. But with the nitro back the new works as good as the old.
Andy.
 
Old Hoppes is an entirely different story. The older is is the better it smells.

Back in the early fifties my Dad was on the Detroit poice force. For a while he was assigned to a four man crew that drove a big black Buick. The large trunk was full of all sorts of frightfulness. Every few months they'd come to our house and bring stuff down into basement rec room and cleaned all their weapons. I was ten years old and loved the smell of Hoppes as it permeated the basement.
 
Back to old primers. I have some Remington 9-1/2s from the 1950s -- the ones with lead styphnate -- that I use for one chambering. They work just fine -- better than anything else in this case, which is why I use them.

Not a recommendation, just report.
 
ccIBR4

Ok Send them to me" I'll take them;)
If they were stored properly you should have little trouble.
I just bought some and the new ones are great. The ones in my cabinet from the 70;s shot just as well as the new ones.
The cups are a bit harder, suitable for higher pressure loads. I have one older stolle with the larger firing pin hole.
with normal loads and 205M primer crater and push into the firing pin hole, with the BR 4 it does Not do that due to the harder cups
 
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