Can I make a sizerdecaper die

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acelungger

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I bought a 22/6mm barrel, when I get it I am going to cast the chamber, I have a brand new Lyman 222 set of dies, I got them when I bought out a small sporting goods store 2-3 years ago, a couple sets of the dies I bought had missing peice's . why can't I mill out the die to mate the casting, then comes the hard part and that would be to do the shoulder in the die.
So what do you guys think?
Greg
 
Gregg

First, make a chamber cast. You may find that you can cobble up a set of dies using existing dies. Maybe a body die from one, a neck sizer from another, etc.

You'll find that your 222 die is hardened which will involve annealing first. If you are good enough to make a sizing die out of it you should be good enough to make a 1/2 reamer which will let you ream rather than "mill", or more likely you meant bore?

Or, just use a peice of old barrel and make a set of dies.

Ray
 
I do have a question. Isn't the 22-6mm cartridge a 6mm Rem. necked down to accept a .224" bullet, and the 6mm-222, a 222 Rem. case necked up to take a .243" bullet? Which is it?
Regards,
Bob
 
Ray,, I didn't state I was going to make chamber casting (but on the 3 line you will see where I make references to a casting) sorry. I don't think I could make a Caddy out of a shopping cart, but I can make a shopping cart out of a Caddy! I have cut a lot of cars in half and put the good halves back together that you couldn't tell.
Bob, the 22/6mm is a 6mm case necked down to 224 dia. I am not a gunsmith and I will never be one! I did forget about how hard the die would be! I know that a person can get dies, I just like doing stuff. I will make my own stock for the 22/6mm, it's not that I can't buy one, i just like making them. I do want to let everyone know that I am great full for the reply's, and as bad as I hate to say this, I am sure that won't be the last one I ask! I have played with AR's since the mid 80's and was pretty happy with doing that and putting some 1911's together, but then I ran acrossed a U Tube Video of a guy shooting off of a bench at a 1000yd target and they took the camera and looked down the scope (it was a scope ad video) the scope was a Mauch 40-80x60 ??? a am not sure that the spelling was any good of the scope, I do know it was a 40-80, and they had it on 80 and I couldn't believe how good that target looked at a 1000yds, and I couldn't believe the price of that scope!!!! So that got the gears spinning in the old nognet!
Later
Greg
 
oooohhhhh you gotta' real problem here Ace..... a REAL problem.

You browse this site and find out just how far this crowd takes this stuff and you'll be hooked for life. Picture this, a true Bench Rest rifle is actually more accurate, more precise at 100yds, than a laser transit. This site will reset your worldview regarding shooting...... I don't know whether to describe it a a steep hill to climb or a massive downhill tumble into a money pit but take it from me, it's a mother-truckin' RIOT!!!

You will not run out of challenges....

al
 
acelungger said:
Ray,, I didn't state I was going to make chamber casting (but on the 3 line you will see where I make references to a casting) sorry. I don't think I could make a Caddy out of a shopping cart, but I can make a shopping cart out of a Caddy! I have cut a lot of cars in half and put the good halves back together that you couldn't tell.
. . .Greg
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Greg

I did not say that you said you were going to make a chamber cast. I said that the first thing you need to do is make a cast to see exactly what the chamber looks like. Also, I made no reference to making a Caddy.

I think you need to be over on Bubbas Guns & Bullets forum.:rolleyes:

Just tryin to help. Sorry.

Ray
 
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Why not simply get a set of commercially available 22-6MM Rem. dies? CH, Redding, RCBS all make them. I think the CH dies are around $80 if you're looking for a cost effective way to go.

Your life will be much simplified if you go this route, believe me. -Al
 
Hey Greg..... excuse some of the intracate comments.... but these guys... and myself have done this..... yes you can make your own dies... most of us have done/do it.Time wise....considered.... many companies will make you a set.... ( they have all the components/know how/heat treat at hand)
But these die companies can`t cut a car in 1/2 and weld another to it.What I`m trying to say is we all have our areas of expertise....
As Al N. said.commercial dies are available......But....I would sent 3 fired cases out of chamber for them experts to look at....
OMHO.... mileage may vary...
bill larson
afterthought... are you the guy who welded 2 ford front ends together so people could`nt tell if you were coming or going...???
 
Greg -

One Greg to another, ignoring several things, here are a few questions:

1. What are you going to bore the die with?
2. How do you ensure that that tool is the right size?
3. Where are you going to get that tool?
4. If you don't make that tool yourself, how much is it going to cost? How many times would you use it?
5. In another post, you talk about shooting at 1k yards? Is that your goal for the 22/6mm?
6. You mention a March scope. Have you checked out http://www.kelbly.com/ .
 
Hi Guys,
You all have to take me with a grain of salt! Hornady makes the 22/6mm dies for less than $30.00.I am a Jack of all Trades and a Master of NONE. I have no intention of cheating anyone, I have no plans to argue with anyone, I am on this forum to learn. I was wrong on the scope Greg it was the 8-80x56.Guys my pay check for the month is $1044.00 and there isn't 1 cent left for me to spend! I buy and sell gun stuff, I customize AR 15's and that is how I earn my money to play with! there is no sense of me explanning any more other than I have a destroyed back, i didn't state any of that to get peddy, I just like people to know where I come from! I would love to be a Gun Smith, but I would have to have a back that would let me do a lot and I can't stand up for any lenght of time. The 22/6mm is just a fun project! I want to build everything that I can. If I would of run acrossed a 6mmTurbo barrel at a bargin, then my project would be a Turbo project instead!Now on my 260 Ackley Improved the only things that I will do is put the scope on and put the barreled action into it's stock! And because of that, unless I get some of my personal guns sold, it won't get done!! If I still had my big lathe things might be different, I could of built a trueing fixture to true up a Remington 700 Action, but my small lathe will not allow me to do that.So I am going to have to buy a custom action which is nice but the cost isn't!
If I have stepped out of line by my post, please let me know? If I am not suppose to post in this section because I am not a Gun Smith.
Later
Greg
P.S. If anyone has one of those March 8-80x55 scopes just lying around or a true ready to go action with Remington 700 threads, just box them up and send them my way Ha Ha.
 
I do understand about the back issues. Mine has been broken twice! This caused peripheral neuropathies in my legs and feet. As you said, just do what you can, and try to improve your skill level. I started as a machinist in 1966, and have learned to build and repair progressive stamping and forming dies, plastic injection molds, blow molds, and a little bit about plastic extrusion dies. This along with doing the off the wall jobs for a local gunsmith. This is only to say that I have learned a lot in my life by asking questions of people who could provide answers, and by taking a step, and then regaining my balance before taking another. If you try to skip too many steps, you may fall to the bottom, and give up on trying to climb stairs. You may not make it to the top step, or you might. Have you heard the song by Conway Twitty, Slow Hand. Getting in a hurry, and skipping steps will not get you many second dates!
Good luck,
Bob
 
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