Bullet obstructed bolt results (pics)

stiller

Middle aged member
Because of the recent incidents I thought I would post this. These are some pics of the bolt from a Viper SS. It is a coned bolt, sliding extractor, S7 tool steel, etc same as all of our viper, diamondback etc non drop bolts. This gun was chambered to 6 x 47 Lapua. The barrel was brand new with a cleaning rod in it. The owner was doing something with it on his couch, and a live round touched off. The 107 grain bullet was lodged 2 inches down the bore. Luckily his face was not near it. Here are the pics with some explanations. It seems to be of interest exactly what happens.
bolt_side.jpg

bolt_side2.jpg

These 2 pics clearly show where the gases go. They find the least resistance path which is between the bolt and barrel cone and out the rail. The burn patterns show that quite well. Note the extractor pushed all the way to the bolt od and stopped in the action. By the way, the case came out like this and is swaged into the bolt.
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In this pic you can see where the pressure went. It blew out the slot in the extractor area and left some brass on it. It is a nice slot about .070 wide and as long as the extractor. I would bet that it accompanied the gases out the side rail.
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In this if you look real close you can see the slot missing in the case where the extractor is. That is really the only projectile that comes out of this deal. This action also had the primer blanked as I could see light through the primer hole. My belief is that the only thing that goes that direction is the blanked primer and some gases. When the hit the exit holes, they seem to go more straight out and in front of the face, not so much aimed back at it like the port rails.

I have a blown up drop port also. The 3 ring of steel theory is good, but about equal amount of the bolt that forms the clip slot was missing on that one and come out. Luckily didnt hurt anyone either. It amazes me how strong these actions really are. I assume that over 100,000 psi probably was reached and it has to go somewhere. If Tink will ship my his gun, I would love to do this same type of investigation on it and see just what went where and how. These few examples are great learning aids on how to make better products in the future.
 
Stiller

Just wondering if this also swelled the chamber. I'm sure this is the first 6X47 any of us have seen on a belted case. Also nicely machined bolt to avoid stress risers.

Michael
 
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Jerry, do these work..?

Two examples of blocking material (shrapnel) from the shooters face...

One..... The Large bolt body actions, such as Halls, Meyer, 3-Lug Bat actions.
These actions have no raceways and the bolt bodies "seal-up" the shrapnel from rearward escape. The gas is forced through the action gas escape holes (mostly anyway...).

Two... Savage 110 actions with the bolt baffles to stop any shrapnel from going down it's raceways....

Rem clones have the bolt shrouds to "help" ward off shrapnel, but not always succesful...:(

Just wondering your thoughts...

Due to Dennis accident, I have started wearing safty glasses more consistently.

cale
 
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main concerns on the big bolt bodies is extreme pressure acting on the larger area and blowing the lugs off and the bolt back. I have heard of the savage blockers getting ruptured and becoming projectiles. The best is probably the factory rem style. Always wear glasses. Always check your bore. Be careful and dont piss off anyone from above. Hopefully if we dont do something really wrong, we will all be ok.
 
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Jerry,

Whenever things calm down with me (such as surgery, etc.) and when I get back to Arkansas, I will ship you my gun so you can take some more pictures.

Anything you can do in the action design to improve the safety of the gun is greatly appreciated by non-attentive idiots like me.

Tink
 
Speaking of the Savage gas baffle, I have the remains of a seriously blown up 110, that an older shooter probably double charged with a total of around 36 grians of 4227 behind a 173 grain cast bullet. The top of the front reciever ring blew off, and the front of the bolt came up to about a 30 degree angle. The gas baffle was blown off of the bolt. In the case ruptured all the way around, even with the end of the barrel. Luckily the shooter had his non-trigger hand on the rear sand bag, and was wearing glasses. Other than having his face peppered around his glasses, he was OK. Later, he admitted that he had been throwing powder charges with the cases in the loading block, and checking charge level in the case by inserting a dowel, but with those loads, he had gotten lazy, an just checked those around the edge of the block, instead of checking them all.
 
I would like to get on a high horse and state flatly that I would never be dumb enough to forget a cleaning rod in the bore but I very recently received a reminder of how absent minded I can be. I hooked my boat up, towed it about 7 miles and launched; after parking the truck and trailer I noticed that I had forgotten to latch the hitch on the ball. No chains either, that could have easily killed someone.
 
The fat bolts have a much tighter fit than a Savage baffle. The baffle is on the floating head and must float a bit as well fit factory tolerances. Its very hard and on the brittle side of the scale, intentionally so but I have no idea why. The Savage also has a rear baffle fwiw.
 
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