Bolt handle tools

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Jerry Frodsier

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Is there any jigs to hold the hanlde in position other than the Brownells and is there any specification - for a remington SA - on the distance from the rear of the lug to the front of the handle?

Jerry
 
I think that most people make their own alignment fixture for welding or brazing the bolt handles in place.
I made a tooling aid that allows me to determine the distance from the front of the bolt handle notch to the lug abutments. It is similar to a barrel stub, 1.500 in length. It is threaded all the way except for a short flange at the front which is the same diameter as the receiver. The threaded end bottoms out on the lug abutments and you can use a caliper to measure front of notch to end of "barrel stub". Subtract 1.500 and you have a minimum dimension to use when attaching the handle. My fixture allows me to measure the parts when clamped in place.
I'm not sure about the 1.500 dimension but it is not really relevant, just so that it is long enough to function.
 
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Here are some pics of a clamp that I made to hold handles in place. I like it because you can operate the bolt before you attach the handle permanently.

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The clamp was a chain clamp Vise Grip.

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It works on Lawton actions and,

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Remington actions, and holds Kiff, my, and Remington handles.

Scott
 
Good Stuff

Thank you Both for sharing your tooling ideas !

Jerry
 
A 1-1/2 " parallel clamp will work for holding a handle in place for a TIG tac weld.

I use a purge device to cover the welded area on both sides for the TIG-Pulse process.

I see others took the hint to use actions as jigs to position/time handles.

e-mail me for Rem XP/40X/LA handle location dimensions.
 
Scott Job well done

Scott:

Barney should give you a million for that one. Have you talked to Ryan Fisher at MidwayUSA or Jason Carico at Brownells about carrying this tool?

Nat
 
Great tool

By using a lead rod with exchangeable threaded bushings it would work on any bolt.

Shoot well
Peter
 
Nat,
Consider yourself retained as my marketing adviser.:D
Do you suppose that I should advertise thees on my website?:eek:
Scott

And Nat, Barney don't know about these yet. I gave them to you guys first.
 
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TheMachinist - I like your bolt-handle-tool. I have one that is similar but not as nice as this so I will make some mods.

How do you go about brazing the handle? Do you use any special methods to keep the heat manageable? Have you had better luck with certain types of flux and silver solder? Any ideas will be welcome. Thanks, Chris
 
I've given Dave Kiff my design. It will accomodate all three bolt lengths,allow indexing the radial location of the handle in relationship to the bottom of the left bolt lug and you can measure with calipers the location of the handle from the rear of the lugs to the bolt handle. Even I can get it right the first time. I don't know if he's done anything with it yet. Give him a call.

Dave
 
Does the threaded plug float on the end of the Vice Grip or is it tack welded in place? Very cool fixture.
 
From what I could see, I imagined that the threaded plug was not really part of the tool. Surely that is not threaded for the bolt!
 
I heard today that Harris Stay-Silv have a product for keeping heat away from the parts of the bolt that you do not want stained with the brazing torch. One applies it to the areas you want protected. Apparently this compound hardens during the heating process but can be washed off as it is water soluble.

Has anyone had experience with this product and if so, what exactly is the name of it?

Chris
 
Dave Tooley,
Are you silver soldering the handles or having them TIG welded??
Is your fixture designed for the southpaw bolt/handles also.
Your first bolt/handle is on me!!

An easy option;
A pair of needle nose vice grips with the serrations & jaws ground parallel works on a multitude of bolt bodies/handles compared to a threaded insert/clamp.

This clamp is for locating/timing the handle for a TIG weld tack not to hold/clamp the handle to facilitate silver soldering.

You could park a CAT D10 dozer on top of a fixtured bolt/handle to be silver soldering & it will "FLOAT" out of position unless it is being induction soldered.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the idea of having a threaded extension in the bolt body is to create a heat sink during welding? I like this fixture. If the threaded plug were to float inside the Vice Grip then you wouldn't have to worry about indexing the threads to the jaws of the clamp. The clamp would be free to be positioned anywhere around the bolt body.

I've never heard of soldering a bolt handle to the bolt body. I thought TIG or forging were the only options.
 
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