BAT M versus BAT HRRPTRPIC Action

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Chas1

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For all you benchrest folks, 2 questions.
First----Is it true that there's alot of BAT M models being used in 1000yd
benchrest
Second-As an example a Bat M i.55 round is 8.5 inches long, 51 oz. versus a
BAT HRPIC Repeater 1.35 round is 8.860 inches long and 31 oz.

Why such a wieght difference? Granted the M is wider but HRPIC is longer...I could see some sort of weight difference but I can't understand why the M is well over one and a half X's heavier. What am I missing, can anyone explain. Thanks.
 
Magazine cut and smaller dia.

1. There are a few guys including me using a model M for 1000. Mine is a heavy and a friend is using one for his light. They seem to work well.

2.They take a decent chunk of action out when they cut that magazine opening and the M is a slid bottom and bigger dia to boot. It all adds up.
 
Dog-Duster Thanks!

Dog-duster said:
1. There are a few guys including me using a model M for 1000. Mine is a heavy and a friend is using one for his light. They seem to work well.

2.They take a decent chunk of action out when they cut that magazine opening and the M is a slid bottom and bigger dia to boot. It all adds up.
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Thank you for your response Dog-Duster and it sounds like you really know this stuff-pretty much what I heard from BAT this morning, they wrote the following: .2 on a diameter is a BIG difference, also you must remember the HR models are repeaters, so you have the magazine cut also.

Hey Dog-Duster I'm assuming there's not alot of repeater actions in 1000yd or is my assumption wrong...is it a weight issue or are repeater actions generally less accurate than non-repeater actions such as the M. Any advice. Thanks Charlie
 
Repeating actions are less stiff, especially when you hang a lot of heavy barrel off them. Stiffness helps a lot most ways in 1000 yd br. My first LG was built around a 700 SA with a aluminum single shot follower machined to a tap fit and epoxied in. Shoots well but I like how custom actions can be set up to feed left and eject right. BAT makes some great actions, you won't be disappointed.
 
Righthanded- So RBRLRE make sense?

Dog-duster said:
Repeating actions are less stiff, especially when you hang a lot of heavy barrel off them. Stiffness helps a lot most ways in 1000 yd br. My first LG was built around a 700 SA with a aluminum single shot follower machined to a tap fit and epoxied in. Shoots well but I like how custom actions can be set up to feed left and eject right. BAT makes some great actions, you won't be disappointed.
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Dog-Duster, thanks again for your response and helping me learn, don't mean to be a PITA. I'm righthanded and find RB works well but the RE doesn't cause I have to reach over the rifle to catch the case while it ejects otherwise it might hit the ground and damage it. So wouldn't righthanded benchrest shooters have RBRPLE ie operate bolt on right, load from right and catch ejected case from left...or am I missing something?
 
RBLPRE allows you to load with the left hand while the right operates the bolt and trigger. You can shoot a rifle a lot faster that way and try to get all of your shots for record off in close to the same wind condition. I used to catch with my left on my first LG RBRP but now that I have 2 rifles that are dual port I will just let them go onto my towel. Some guys running dual just let the empties eject into their open rifle case beside the bench. Whatever (rules legal) works for you, use it.
 
Thanks Dog-Duster

I really appreciate all you taught me today, thank you and i hope the winter weather isn't to treating the folks in CO to harshly. If you can believe it we've had at least a half dozen morning here in Jacksonville FL in low 30's and one morning 22...thaught I left that stuff back in NY when I left in 83...all in all not to bad considering once the sun comes up it generally gets into the 60's. Again, thanks a bunch. Charlie
 
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