Barrel profile and heat

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paul t

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After shooting my factory blaser 308 rifle at 400y with Lapua 185g scenars and wasnt doint to bad best group was under 1 and half inch 5 shot group, after 20 shots were fired with break between shots i noticed my groups starting to open up, Very calm no wind so i put the opening groups down to barrel heat, guy beside me also shooting prone with bypod fired 20 shots under 1 inch with a 30in 7mm rpa action in mcmillan stock rifle with a Large diameter non fluted barrel, barrel seemed to be at least around 1 and a half inches in diameter, Would such a Large diameter barrel in 6mm 30in long shooting the 108 bergers at 2900 or so fps help keep groups tight more so than a smaller diameter barrel, paul.
 
Paul, did you clean the barrel? That would be my first inclination when the groups started opening up rather than barrel heat.
 
On my 6ppc, I can notice a definate loss in accuracy after about 15-20 rounds. Some of the best groups I have shot were after cleaning and a couple of fouling shots. This is with a Kreiger and a Bartlein barrel. As near as I can tell it has nothing to do with heat in the barrel.

Donald
 
barrel profiles & group size

I fired 4 groups of 5 shots at 30 sec intervals, I shoot molly only with vit n550 which seems to burn very clean in my barrel, Shoot upto 40 shots before cleaning, might try dry nylon brush after 20 shots and see if this aids accuracy, would a Large diameter barrel take Longer to heat up than a smaller diameter barrel thus improving accuracy.
 
A heavier barrel will take longer to heat up. There is no direct correlation between this and accuracy; that is, after a certain number of rounds, any barrel will be hot.

Heat can cause all sorts of problems, but in my experience, they are repeatable. Bill Shehane once had a very experimental rifle that suffered from heat problems. In pretty short order, he learned to hold off a certain amount after x-number of shots (the hold-off grew with the round count). He shot a few winning groups with the rifle. The point is, the heat-related stringing was so predictable he could hold for it.

With the 20-40 rounds you are shooting, any barrel will get hot. I would guess that the barrel channel in the rifle has as much to do with stringing shots as heat per se. One thing that can cause stringing is the difference in temp between the top & bottom of the barrel, and a tight barrel channel can cause this.

I wouldn't run right out & ruin that pretty fit of the barrel in the stock. See if you can find a pattern in the stringing. It will almost certainly be vertical. It the stock is a factor, the first round will print "normal", then the shots will go lower & lower as the barrel gets pretty hot, then move back up after a while as the heat evens. If the groups just start printing lower & Lower & stay there, it could be that something else is an issue.

If the stringing isn't vertical, there is some stress in the barrel doing you in, or some other problem that heat is bringing out, but not directly *causing.*
 
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