Bag Question

sbindy

sbindy

Steve B
I need some advice on my rest set-up. When I fire a shot and have to push the rifle forward to the stop, the rifle needs readjusted downward each time. I am sure the problem is something I am missing in the set-up of my rest and bags, just not sure what it is. I have a Sinclair rest with Protektor bags, so its not the quality of my equipment that is in question. Any advice will be appreciated.
 
Are you touching the rear bag with you chest or arm? If so it will push the rear bag foward a little which will drive the muzze upward.
 
Is your stock touching the main body of the rear bag when you first set up? When you say it needs readjusting downward after being pushed back to the stop, do you mean at the front or back of the stock? Are your crosshairs high on target or low?
 
Crosshairs

Its a 30BR on a Savage action, so its not exactly a lightweight. After the shot the crosshairs are high on the target and I have to adjust the rest downward. Usually with the rear screw. It goes to the first ring outside the mothball. After a few shots the whole thing needs readjusted. I bought a new rear bag today with the double stitching to fit my stock better. It seems that my stock never really settles into the bag that I have been using.

The barreled action is in an aftermarket BR style stock with a 3" forend and flatbottom buttstock.
 
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I am not

a expert here but I have been struggling with sort of the same thing until I believe tonite.

Sinclair rest with Cordura front bag and protector rear bag with short leather ears. Bags are dusted with powdered caranuba wax.

It would be out a fair bit on return to battery and was throwing shots. I was beginning to wonder if a PPC could shoot so bad?

I thought, maybe what the hell, tighten the front wings as tight as I can. Presto tracks by far better and the groups shrunk BIGTIME. Just my observations. I felt a whole lot better after tonite. Hopefully some nice weather tommorrow evening to give it another try.


Calvin
 
Sounds like the rear bag sand is settling with each shot, if you are shooting with a coaxial front rest. What kind of sand in the rear bag and how tightly packed is it. Are you shooting free recoil? Are you squeezing the rear bag or using a coax front rest?
 
Sand

I am using the heavy bag sand. I had taken some of it out of the bag because it rolled around on the bench since the bottom wasn't flat. I just got a new bag today with the doughnut and thick bottom to prevent that, and double stitching to fit my stock better. The bag is probably still settling like you said because I can always push down on it and it still moves around. Hopefully this new bag will fix all of that.
 
Not to highjack

but looking for some insight as well.

In my case I have a solid front Sinclair top and a Shadetree top. The front bag is shaped solidly to the shape of the front stock. I keep a chunk of plastic in it when not used to hold its shape.

May rear bag is just the way I bought it packed solid, very hard.

I will put some pics up.

Calvin
 

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Thanks for the pictures. I packed my new bag as tight as I could, and added the Cordura front bag and tightened the ears. Shot some really good groups today, but found two more problems.
1. Crosshairs move when dry firing
2. My chronograph lies.
When the same load drops 300fps only five minutes later, somethings wrong. Oh well, more stuff to fix!
 
Could be your trigger pull, what is it set to ? I got rid of all my Savages so I could keep Arnold Jewel in business :D 2oz is way better than 5 or 6.
 
1 1/2 lbs

Thats as light as I can get the trigger to go to.:(
I need to buy a real rifle and quit putting band-aids on this thing.
 
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You can forget free recoil. You are going to have to hang on to the rifle. I shot a heavily modded Savage in our group matches last year and had a lot of fun with it. The Rifle Basix Sav2 would be a good upgrade for you. You can get them down to about 5 or 6 oz. Then you can start shooting free recoil and your groups will shrink.

I heavily modified the Sav 2 on my 6BR and it was safe to about 4 oz. I did set my trigger up so that it had plenty of sear engagement as I did not want it to go off when closing the bolt.
 
Fred @ sharpshooter supply now has a true 2 oz benchrest trigger for a savage, it's as sweet as the 4 jewells I own too,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
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